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  2. Southernhighlander

    Mash Tun not Heating

    I was talking to Tim who asked how to tell what valves he has. i need to know the size of your still pot and mash tun in gallons to spec the correct pressure relief valves for you. The ASME section VIII PRVs are required for steam jackets. I don't know how your inspector missed that.
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  4. Georgeous

    Mash Tun not Heating

    Paul, are you talking about the valves on the boiler or on the mash tun? and which valves. Also boiler guys are there today to plumb the 2nd jacket
  5. Southernhighlander

    Mash Tun not Heating

    Tim, The yellow tag on the valve that says do not remove will tell you if it is a section VIII for steam. The valve for the inner boiler is not required by law but you should have one there. I put section IV valves on the inner boiler and on baine marie jackets as a redundant safety feature. If you don't have the yellow tags email me a picture of the plates on your valves and i will check them for you.
  6. Georgeous

    Mash Tun not Heating

    Here is what i dont understand, color me ignorant if you must My steam boiler is low pressure 15hp/15psi. Its operational pressure is set at 13.5psi. According to the chinese the reason they give a 1.5 bar is that is the upper limit of the jackets structural integrity. Now my boiler does not put out above 15psi, with that 1.5 bar release it will never produce enough pressure to set that off. As a matter of fact, while it was fully under pressure i removed it wearing a welders gloves. without the triclamp i held it in place when i pulled it off steam shot straight up bout 10 ft till jacket was empty. Now i know that was ignorant to do, but i was not hurt. i just don't understand how 15psi boiler can possibly set off this relief valve. BTW the boiler has all kinds of safety features itself, that dont let it go over 15psi either. Also when all this was connected i had to get boiler inspector out here and i got my cert which has to hang on wall next to boiler. Only thing inspector gave me grief about was my vent hood but turned out it was up to code. he was use to higher pressure systems and what hey required. i will look in to replacing these i want to be safe. Hey if you are reading paul i got two on my still and two on my mash tun let me know what i need and give me a quote.
  7. Georgeous

    Mash Tun not Heating

    So the Chinese factory responded to me. Just like what they said to me in past many customers run both through their jacket cold and steam. Dear George , Pls kindly check my answers below: 1.Making the jacket of the straight side be swappable for steam and cooling,use two way valve to control. When heating is required, the bottom and straight sides are heated by steam to reach the required temperature for mash. Next, if you need to cool down, you can close the steam valve on the straight side, empty the interlayer of steam, and pay attention to the temperature in the tank. If the temperature drop is not low enough, You can then switch valves,so that the straight jacket can cooled by cooling water. 2.The jacket can withstand cold and steam. It is important to note that if the cooling water is switched on when there still has steam in the interlayer, the cooling water cannot be connected until the steam in the interlayer is exhausted first.And vice versa. 3.Elbow like this: three;Match the clamp and sealing ring;4*1.5 inch butterfly valves,is that all? If so, please pay for the cost of the valve, and we will provide the pipe and quick-install clamp for free.(Not including freight charge). Note that the bottom, like in the picture, can be connected like this: 4.As to the mash tun is not heated up: 1.The heating area of the bottom steam interlayer is relatively small. As we mentioned above,can make the straight side through steam to solve this problem. 2.What is your inlet steam pressure?Can appropriately increase the steam pressure (less than or equal to 0.3MPA)
  8. I think this is new and not really a desirable change. My feeling is age is an indication to the consumer of time spent on wood, so the customer has a general expectation for the product. I do understand that the maturation process is different when moving the spirit to a new barrel, as opposed to a continuous barrel aging in a single barrel. But with age statements there are so many variables affecting the maturation process, I'm not sure its fair or appropriate to single this one out. What if you're in the second barrel for twice as long as the first, or if the first one was used and second one new (for a generic whiskey)? If I set up a solera system, I don't think its fair to only count the time spent in the first barrel as the total age of the spirit and doesn't provide the customer with useful information as to the nature of the product. For me this change just introduces more questions than simply making age a statement of time the spirit is stored in oak. If you look at the FAQ below, it seems previously the time spent on oak was the determination of age: From their FAQ https://www.ttb.gov/spirits/faq.shtml What is the "age" of a whisky?The TTB regulations at 27 CFR 5.11 define the term "age" to mean the period during which, after distillation and before bottling, distilled spirits have been stored in oak containers. For bourbon whisky, rye whisky, wheat whisky, malt whisky, or rye malt whisky, and for straight whisky other than straight corn whisky, the "age" is the period during which the whisky has been stored in charred new oak containers.
  9. Georgeous

    Mash Tun not Heating

  10. Hudson bay distillers

    Mash Tun not Heating

    hey paul how does a guy tell if the prv are the correct ones for kettle and the one on the jacket tim
  11. bostonapothecary

    Sourcing bacterial strains for rum fermentations

    The birectifier contradicts this somewhat. Ordinary ethyl-acetate appears in the first two fractions, and though quite concentrated, stays perfectly clear. Most extraordinary longer chain, higher molecular weight esters appear in the fifth fraction (while 75% of fusel oil is in the 4th). The turbid cloudiness turns out to be high value esters shocked out of solution. I've experienced aromas I assume to be be iso amyl acetate (banana) in the second fraction. Other esters may lurk in the first fraction but be overshadowed by the cloying noxiousness of the ethyl-acetate. What I just described is highly sorted fractioning by birectifier. On a normal less fractioned run everything would be spread out with significant overlapping. A lot more of what is in fraction 5 (high value) stretches way out into the tails, which you can't capture without risking too much fusel oil. It would be awesome to add titratable acidity. Then we could look at how esters either break and reform or how they stay broken but maybe continue contributing as noble-volatile acidity. This would cost $4000 for the titrator and be pretty low skilled. To bring it around for those reading along, understanding much of this may be key if you plan on adding secondary bacterial ferments.
  12. Yes my message was for you, I just sent you an email. Here’s mine just in case: j_cohen03@yahoo.com
  13. Barley, if this message was for me, I tried to P:M. The system tells me that you can't receive messages. I'm inept at things like that. Email me at dhdunbAr1@gmail.com if the message was for me. Otherwise, have a nice day :-).
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  15. Southernhighlander

    Mash Tun not Heating

    Corson had some of the worst designed stills ever built. Time lines were not their only problem. They had major functionality and safety issues. In fact the manway blew off of one of their stills killing 2 cats and injuring the distillery owner who was very lucky that he did not get hurt worse or killed. Also some people never received their equipment after paying down payments of over $100,000.00 and they never received their money back. I sold equipment to several people that they screwed and helped several others solve serious issues. Tory Corson called my office and cussed me and would not stop calling no matter how many times I hung up on him. He tied my phone system up for over an hour. He had his attorney send me letters threatening to sue me and I said bring it on, but they never followed through because in the end of course they would have lost, because everything I said about them was true. I don't think they are still in business, but I'm not sure. Your still and mash tuns both have safety issues. I suggest that you fix those safety issues as soon as possible in the ways that some of us have suggested. If you do not get your ASME PRVs and VRVs from me get them from someone else. Also make sure that they are of the proper capacity in lbs of steam per hr and that you have the correct ASME ratings. If you need help with that let me know and I will help get you lined out. This really is something you should fix. Since your safety devices are not up to code you could be shut down. Also if you are going to have tours your customers could be badly injured. If you want I can email you a copy of my safety manual at least that way you will have some safety guidance. We have a line of stills called our Signature series that have more of a German look if that is what someone is after. We have them in many different configurations. Please see the pics below. We now have equipment in over 300 distilleries in the US alone and we have over 300 references. For anyone buying stills directly from the Chinese, have a heart and please consider that you are buying stolen intellectual property and that it could have been stolen from an American company like mine.
  16. karsamericanfifth

    Filtering Cream Liqueurs

    Anyone on here doing cream liqueurs, what do you use to filter when bottling? I'm a little concerned trying to force the liqueurs through the normal style filters we use for all of our other spirits.
  17. LI Spirits Distillery

    **SOLD** Used 30 Inch Stone Mill For Sale

    We were working out a deal on Friday and we just got confirmation that the person is buying it. Unfortunately it is no longer available.
  18. Georgeous

    Mash Tun not Heating

    also they assured me both jackets could be used for heating and cooling
  19. Georgeous

    Mash Tun not Heating

    Roger, you are making assumptions. When i sought out Zhenjiu Manufacturing i asked for a list of 10 distilleries or breweries in the USA that have bought their equipment. They sent me a list of 20 most in the USA but others across north and south america. Being fluent in English, Portuguese and Spanish i called every single one of them. I asked what they liked and did not like about the equipment and would they buy again. The things echoed by every one of them was price, quality and great customer service. i am not a still designer, we started with a 50 gallon copper moonshine still, very simple very straight forward. I originally was looking at Corson Distilling, i really liked their designs. I would have bought from corson however i would have been one of those waiting for equipment to arrive as they seem to have issues with promised delivery dates. I did not ask Zhenjiu to make any special modifications i just merely pointed them to what i was looking for and they presented me the corson like system. I asked about cooling and heating and this is what they gave me.
  20. Winnie the Pooh

    Ace Rotomold Fermenters for sale

    Sent you a Private Message to you. Thanks.
  21. Airman700

    **SOLD** Used 30 Inch Stone Mill For Sale

    Is it still available?
  22. Foreshot

    Sourcing bacterial strains for rum fermentations

    Chart of relative polarity: https://www.aceorganicchem.com/Elite/organic-chem-15-organic-solvents-likes-dissolve-likes/ Water > Carboxylic > Ethanol.
  23. Foreshot

    Sourcing bacterial strains for rum fermentations

    Yes-ish. You talk about getting the right ones in abundance. I agree with this. If you have an abundance of good ones it helps the equilibrium go the way you want. In distilling we set the conditions for outcome we want. We can't dictate the outcome. Your ideas align with that philosophy. Yes. All ferments have a wide variety of fusel oils and fusel alcohols, it's just a matter of how much. Most commercial distillers I know hit ~1.000 and run it. It makes a clean taste not much by way of character. I find the ferments that I abuse more have more fusels and end up being more interesting - mostly good but sometimes bad. This is something we need to research more. I believe, though I don't have evidence, that the removal of the water molecule reduces the boiling point. I think that's why most esters come over in the early heads to early hearts. Side note, some interesting things I found while researching this post: https://www.solubilityofthings.com/water/alcohols <- simpler alcohols are miscible, but higher alcohols are less so to the point they aren't really at all. This could help explain what happens when you phase separate low wines. It's not just fusel oils, but fusel alcohols too. https://sites.duke.edu/apep/module-1-gender-matters/content/content-what-is-alcohol/ <- chart showing # per 100g of Butanol and higher alcohols, including Amyl (pentanol). Anything above this will float and be able to be removed by phase separation. https://socratic.org/questions/how-do-covalent-bonds-dissolve-in-water <- Alcohol floats on water until given time to diffuse.
  24. Southernhighlander

    Filtered Gin?

    majorservices Do you run through your gin basket then plates & dephleg or through your plates & dephleg then gin basket?
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  26. bluefish_dist

    Ace Rotomold Fermenters for sale

    300 gallon went to a new home today. Still have the 110’s and 85’s.
  27. Silk City Distillers

    Filtered Gin?

    You don't charcoal filter gin. If you want to treat your neutral with carbon first, go right ahead, but you simply can not do it after you infuse the alcohol with botanicals.
  28. Grant

    How are you cleaning bottles

    The top is a sink cutout from a Corian countertop. Chafing Dish 1/2" copper pipe and fittings. 3/8" stainless pipe uprights. We crimped the tops with a large drill chuck. We brazed the copper to stainless but would recommend compression fittings instead. Mash pump from More Beer. Quick connect fittings. Helps to burp pump for priming and cleaning. We don't seem to use the valve ever. 10" filter from Home Depot In the back ground we have some racks from Costco these have been fantastic for drying. I can get 120 bottles per shelf and the neck of the bottle fits nicely in the 2: mesh hole. We use 15% alcohol solution for rinsing.
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