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    I can speak directly to the quality of Corson welds. They are terrible, not water tight and put you directly in the line of explosion hazards. I spent two weeks cutting apart and rebuilding a Corson Still in Texas a year ago to make it "safe" to operate and was hilarious just how bad the welds were. Water and steam leaks all over the place. Pinholes in many welds and Corson refused to fix them. Its a damn shame to see their advertising on ADI or Artisan Spirit Mag when these organizations both know that Corson is selling dangerous equipment.
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    There is a South African distilling products company called Distillique and they have an excellent guide to sizing systems on their webpage. Check it out.
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    We've built a few different styles now. Our newest versions made of local Douglas fir. We get the wood from a local mill rough cut into 2x4s. Then we use a shaper to make cup and round-over edges on each of the staves. The bases, also doug fir, are cut to a double tongue and groove, fitted together then cut round. We use a similar v cut like the cruz on a traditional barrel for the joint between the staves and base. The hoops are made from 1/2" soft rolled steel rod rolled in a conduit roller and threaded at both ends. The whole thing is assembled squeezed and filled for swelling. Pic is of a couple unassembled vats. As a disclaimer, i need to note that we do use hardware to afix crossmembers on the bottom, but we use stainless and does not ever come into contact with liquid.
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    We run one of these on a fully automatic line and it's pretty awesome.
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    How much you can sell and how much you can make are two very different questions. Can't help on the how much can you sell. To answer the how much to make I will post what I think are some good estimates. Not perfect, but they will help you plan. Note I have posted this before. Start with how much you need to make (gross). Figure you can get $100/gallon for bottled product ($20/bottle) Maybe more, maybe less, but this is a rough estimate. So divide gross sales by 100, that is how many gallons you have to make. So roughly every $100k is 1000 gallons. Divide by 50 to get per week. That's 20 gallons or 100 bottles per week to sell $100k. Distillation is about a 10:1 reduction, so 20 gallons bottled is about 200 gallons of wash/wort into the still. To determine still size, decide how often to run the still. Once per week is a 200 gallon still, twice per week is 100. For fermenter, figure a two week turn. Some are faster, some slower, so that doubles the still volume. In rough numbers 400 gallons of fermentation, 200 gallon still run weekly gets you $100k/year gross. I think this shows why you need a pretty big setup to make any money. also look at your fire code. If you don't have sprinklers you can only have 120 gallons in a control area. That isn't much barrel storage. It goes to 240 gallons with sprinklers.
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    I'm interested. How noisy is this one? I saw one a few years ago that made quite the racket when it was running and I'd like to know if anything has changed to deaden the sound of thousands of corks tumbling around. Thanks!
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    This thread is way too serious, so I'm going to make glittery blue moonshine.
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    Almost ever commercial level product has a hard drive or hard drives and records over the video.... when properly programmed. There are a number of things that you want to be able to set,,, one is motion recording. This will only record and use drive space ( or potentially bandwidth) when the camera sees motion. The frame rate... which can be set as high as 30 frames per second. Should be down around 7 unless your looking at alot of fast moving activity. Etc etc. There are alot of tweaks that can be done in order to save both drive space and bandwidth. On top of that you set this system to recycle say anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 months depending on the amount of drive space you use. With motion detection on that varies with how much activity your camera sees and whether you have set them up correctly. A number of companies make decent systems with good or better remote access and expandable drive space. The cheapest ive used is HIK Vision. There stuff is good.. not my favorite and their support is ok. For you that want to build out your own pc id use Geovision. Software is free with them. Their support is just ok.... i no longer will build out a pc for this. PCs run into issues over time. Id stick with a more hardware based solution such as the HIK or one of the better brands. I love 3xlogic. Not expensive, made in usa, excellent tech support, great online access options, hardened recorder... lots of options. You cant go wrong with 3x. They also have the Infinias line of access control that integrates with your video so card access also gives you a recording tied to it making looking up stuff super easy. And god forbid your not their and the cops show up and need a video to go... you can do that remotely for them and all someone has to do is stick in a blank dvd for you. We spend ridiculous amounts on a still and barely blink.... step up a little and get a good surveillance system. Perhaps you will never need it. But the day you do you will feel it was the best money you ever spent. Scott
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    Craft distilleries not nearly as creative as Brooklyn. Youve got like 4 main stories. First Distillery (insert something here) since prohibition - except your not. My pappy was a moonshiner or related to Al Capone - so was everyone else's. Secret recipe found hidden in a safe or wall of a building - was probably thrown away for good reason. Local and sustainable - except distilling is only slightly less ecofriendly than a superfund site.
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    The more I post, the faster I move up the ladder from "newbie" to "Master Distillerator"
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    Here's the first one of a series of three movies explaining how Single Malt Whisky is made on an iStill 500. The general outline of the process, and how we mash. Fermenting and distilling will be the topics of the second video. And the third one? Well in the third video we'll dive in deeper and take it to a new level ... But hold your horses, here is a first movie as an introduction with some benefits ... https://istillblog.com/2018/05/08/how-to-make-single-malt-whiskey-1/
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    Since you are a food facility, and must register with FDA, eventually you will be under the jurisdiction of a state agency, in most states, tasked with doing the inspections for food agencies. Sometimes that is the state agricultural department. In any case, in most cases, they will be looking for a hand sink and some means to clean and sanitize equipment coming in contact with food stuffs during processing or packaging, which means 3 basin sink or steam cleaning system.
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    I'll add a more general comment. For the most part, TTB is unconcerned about any health or safety issues. The only health issue that comes to mind is the requirement that all ingredients be "generally recognized as safe" by the FDA. They are not concerned about sanitation, or fruit flies, or hand washing habits. GRAS is their issue only because of the dual jurisdiction that FDA and TTB share over beverage alcohol, which the law considers a food. By a memorandum of understanding, TTB's labeling regulations apply to most alcoholic beverages and all spirits. So TTB agrees that it will police, for the FDA, the GRAS standards, which FDA determines. For GRAS, TTB is the tail and FDA does the wagging. This is not to say that TTB employees don’t care about health issues, but it is a personal concern. There is a first principal at play here - TTB can have official concerns only about things which are contained in laws over which Congress has given it jurisdiction. While you cannot know, unless you have my sort of intimate familiarity with those laws and the regulations "promulgated" under them, what you may not know you do not know about what TTB requires, one trick is to find searchable versions of parts 5 and 19 of the regulations and do a search for a word like "sink" or anything else about which you might be curious. The DSP regulations - part 19 - are issued under the Internal Revenue Code. Think about that. Every business in the country is subject to the provisions of that code. Every business, profit and nonprofit, sole proprietor, partnership, corporation, LLC - none of that matters. The IRC is a hefty document, not hernia heavy, but if it were to include concerns about health, etc., lifting it could become an event in the strongest persons in America competitions. The FAA Act, the other principal stature under TTB's jurisdiction, is concerned with what you say on the label, your trade practices, the need for permits, and the requirement that you submit formulas. The formula requirement touches on GRAS issues, because TTB evaluates the ingredient use to see if the FDA has said they are GRAS as used. But that is it. However, you must register your facility with the FDA and it is subject to FDA inspection. That is the federal agency that is going to enforce the health standards, if anyone is. About what FDA requires, I am as ignorant as most everyone else in the country is. And, as Silk City points out, state and local authorities enforce their own codes. How do you determine what you do not know you do not know about such things? You must identify the agencies that have jurisdiction and ask them.
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    Ours is a 4" SWD that runs 106' to the 28" main line with less than 1/4" pitch, "flat pipe". 600' to the north is one of our Carwashes that is also 4"SWD and that runs 397' to the main line with plus 1/4" pitch, "normal". The carwash has peek flow rates of 95 GPM and there is no problem. I doubt a distillery would have higher flow rates than that. You may have a valley in your pipe (had that problem at our campground) that is causing a problem or sediment infiltrated the pipe due to a bad joint or cracked pipe. Also I've seen a nest in the vent stack that impeded flows. You may want to run a camera (with trace capabilities) down the line (couple $100) before you go too far. Hope this helps, -Dave
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    congrats .....onward and upward best of luck to you . maybe some day we can get away and visit ya . kim
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    We too used that which we grow ourselves.. we're just out. Fortunately these little beauties just popped up.
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    He's really giving it the hard sell, amazing he has any left in stock.... "This imported Roman, Petite absinthe (Pontica) is the best imported pontica I can source, it looks like saw dust, smells like saw dust and is nothing like what I grow myself"
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    We've gotten a LOT of mileage out of our business plan, so its worth struggling through the exercise. Numbers are not that bad if you come at it systematically. After all, you already know quite a bit of information by virtue of the development of the idea. You know what the taxes are and that's key. After that, look at what you think it going to cost you to a) build the business and b) run the business. Now figure out how much production your planned equipment will give you and the amount of money you need to keep the doors open. Now you know how big of a market you'll need to develop and how many cases you'll need to/can actually produce. You don't need to be precise. The real objective of projections is to get you thinking about the reality of the balance sheet. The bigger the business you plan to start the more difficult the task is. However, if you are smaller, much of this can be done in a couple of hours with a calculator and a map. In the end though, no matter how detailed the plan is, it can in no way prepare you for the tsunami of work actually running a distillery is. Like for example, the amount of time you'll spend just keeping the work space clean both for your own sanity, but also for any visitors/customers who will inevitably show up, just when you don't want them.
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    Dear Forum Readers, I just wanted to take a moment to say congratulations to all of the award winners this year for the 12th Annual Craft Spirits Awards! As I went through the list I cannot tell you how overjoyed I was to see so many of the folks that I work with appear on this awards list. There are so many of you that I have worked with from the "inception period" all the way up through production and the winning of awards and it is so fun to watch you grow and be recognized for your amazing talents! I have reached out to many of you personally with an email or phone call, but to all the rest that I either do not know, or have not tasted your product as of yet, CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!!!! Everyone on that list, and all of you here for that matter, pour your heart and soul, blood, sweat, and tears into your business - your passion - and you all should be congratulated for doing what you do, doing what you enjoy, doing what makes you happy and gives you drive. I am truly the luckiest guy around that I get to work with so many of you. There truly are no nicer people on the planet and it is an honor and pleasure to know so many of you. So again, congratulations to all of you and do take time to stop and enjoy this moment for it is big. It is what you have worked so hard to achieve for so many years. Thank you to all of you for doing what you do, and thank you for allowing me to be a part of it!
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    Sorry for the years delay in getting these photos up. Here are a few shots of the rickhouse. It was easy to build for professional carpenters. The trick is in the bracing, and in bolting it to the floor and the walls.
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    I have never thought about that. I don't know why they put the PS identifier into the mix. I can't see that it is going to affect class and type. First, part 5 does not contain the word "steamed" nor "soaked." It makes no exception of the sort, "which has been stored in new charred oak that was not steamed or water soaked prior to use." You can't bury such an important requirement in an obscure section addressing cooperage identification, and that is the only place the issue appears in either part 5 or part 19. Second, the "PS" designation is stated in addition to one of the other required identifiers, not in lieu of, so the record would still show the CH or R designations necessary to establish, for example, whether a whiskey otherwise made in accordance with the standards of bourbon, 51% or more corn, etc, should be designated, based on the type of cooperate in which it was stored, as "bourbon" or as "whiskey distilled from bourbon mash." The container does not lose its CH designation because it was soaked. Therefore, I've got to believe it would be new charred for purposes of part 5 standards of identity and aging requirements. While TTB, or some predecessor agency, must have had some reason for requiring the PS designation, figuring that out would be a research project for which I do not have the time. Since it would require a research project, I conclude it is not something that has ever been an issue. Since it has never been an issue, I think it comes under things listed beneath the heading, don't kick a sleeping dog.
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    HedgeBird C122 has been deoxidized with phosphorus. This process leaves between .015% and .040% phosphorus in the metal, so this copper is still considered a commercially pure copper. Because of this process copper alloy 122 is not susceptible to hydrogen embrittlement. Below is a list of the Characteristic of copper alloy 122. forgeability rating = 65 machinability rating = 20 solderig = excellent brazing = excellent Tig welding excellent cold working = excellent hot forming = excellent Butt welding = good Common Uses for C122 Distillery/brewery tubes Plumbing pipe , plumbing tubing and plumbing fittigs are all made from C122 Chocolate Kettles, Still pots, Still columns and heat exchangers Condenser tubes Medical gas-oxygen lines Gaskets Also the heat transfer in C122 is superior to that of C110 Copper C110 (ETP) Electrolytic Tough Pitch Copper C110 has not been deoxiginized with phosphorous. It is considered a commercially pure copper. This copper has a much better electrical conductivity than c122, and it is used much more than C122 copper. Also it is great for roofing and other applications because of it's toughness and corrosion resistance. Since it is used for roofing and architectural it is much easier to find in sheet form which is why distillery equipment manufacturers who don't know any better use it. Below is a list of the characteristic of copper 110 forgeability rating = 65 machinability rating = 20 solderig = excellent brazing = good Tig welding= fair cold working = excellent hot forming = excellent Butt welding = good Common uses for C110 Electrical Telecommunications Architectural Antimicrobial It is not that you can't build a still from C110, you can, however it is not the best copper for the job. Also it does not tig weld well at all and if you want the best still it should be tig welded with alloy 122 copper welding rod. Brazing is the 2nd best method but c110 does not braze nearly as well as 122. Tig welding copper is very hard, because if you do not weld it right the first time you may not get a 2nd chance. You cook off most of the phosphorous when you weld it the first time and the heat changes the chemical nature of the copper, so that it may not weld well, or even at all if you have to make a 2nd pass and if you try to make a third pass you might as well forget it. I had a mechanical engineer tell me once that copper and stainless could not be welded together. We tig weld copper and stainless together with 308 stainless rod here almost every day with great results. We have never had a copper to stainless weld fail, however we never do that weld where there is going to be vibration. We can also tig copper to brass, copper to aluminum, stainless to aluminum but those are not for distilling application. There are several other forms of copper that also do not work well with distilling, but I will not go into those as they are not commonly made into sheet. paul@distillery-equipment.com http://distillery-equipment.com http://moonshine-still.co
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    Are you kidding? Even ASD is made in China! Duh..... So much equipment pours out of a certain region in China that is set up for manufacturing this stuff. China takes all kinds of designs from all over. Chinese companies will make the Products as thick or as thin you want. It is not there fault. The factory were ASD has in China that builds all of there equipment also builds product for other people on the side with out telling ASD. Not a good move on ASD side for paying for a stand alone factory where it is not monitored very well.
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    although the topic of this thread has wandered a bit, since the title is "business plan" figured I'd copy a good resource I found recently for those in the process of writing one from scratch. http://www.score.org/resources/business-plans-financial-statements-template-gallery consists of links to guides for both startup and existing busiesses....a good resouce if you are writing a plan. -Scott


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