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  1. Distillery for Sale - Texas

    Never met him or seen him, he stays really low key, personally I'm rarely at the distillery. We had talked about doing some charity events if we ever finished the property and extend him an invite. We've used some local craftsmen that know him and said that he doesn't drink or ever has. - Mr. Norris just built a 50,000sqft bottling plant for water across the street from his ranch. http://cforce.com/
  2. Previously listed for lease and no responses - Looking at selling off the distillery - turn key - roughly 40K, great location in the country but close to major college town and about 10 million people within a two hour drive. long term lease available on the property with lots of room to grow and expand. Distillery building is 1,500. square feet, tasting room, unfinished is roughly 700sqft. 5 acres perfect for concerts and events. Five minutes from Chuck Norris's house and C-Force Water - we use the same aquifer.
  3. Hello from Brookshire, TX

    Our distillery is in Anderson, close to College Station about 10 minutes from Chuck Norris's ranch and his CForce bottling plant. We make Vodka out the same water Chuck Drinks and sales. Your better off messing with Whiskey for profit and distribution, even specialty Spirits. We've been at it since 2013, We're at a point that it would be better to sale or lease and contract back to make the product. The plant and operations part is a lot of headache and liability, all the energy goes into marketing. Have you visited with distributors? Do you have a wholesale price point and a shelf price point that your targeting? Your going to need to be priced at Titos or below on the shelf and it's an extremely hard sale. I'm not sure how familiar you are with Specs or the inter workings. talked to other distillers first hand. The laws and system are stacked against you in Texas unless your well capitalized and can afford to push and market, we're grass roots so it's a challenge. After its all said and done i estimate we lose about $6.00 a bottle selling through the 3 tier system and the big chains. Sounds bad but i know of one brand that lost about $120.00 a bottle. They were publicly traded and after reading their financials thats roughly what it was. PM if you have any questions?
  4. Hello from Brookshire, TX

    Great another Texas Vodka. George if you have your TABC out of the way and paid the fees you've done it backwards. The TABC license has to be renewed every two years, make sure the clock hasn't started. It's a tough business in Texas due to the 3 tier system and competition for distributors and market share. Still dragon is a good bang for the buck we've have two systems for 4 years.
  5. Distributor and wholesaler markups

    Hayden I'm in Texas and deal with all these guys. There is no formula as you can't control the retailers price. $24.00 dollar Texas Vodka is a hard sell I know first hand. You need to be less than $20.00. My product sales from $16.99 to $22.62 and wholesales for the same price. Your going to need to wholesale for $8.00 or less. Your a vodka your nobody everyone is a vodka. Even at an $8.00 wholesale there is not guarantee the retailer is going to price you fair. You might be on the shelf at $24.00 and the guy selling at 10.00 is on at $19.00. At the end of the day we probably lose $6.00 a bottle for every bottle we sell. Plan on doing a lot of tastings if your in Specs and budget about $140.00 per tasting - You have to buy your liquor at retail and then pay a tasting company about $35.00 to $45.00 per hour, hope the girl shows and doesn't text on her phone the whole time. Not sure what your talking about regarding TABC tax on small scale distilleries. Distilleries don't pay tax to the TABC unless they're donating product to a charity or selling in the tasting room. The tax is picked up by the Wholesaler. FYI the wholesaler is going to take 25% to 50% margin yes I said 50%. your $15.00 product is going to end up on the shelf at around $40.00
  6. We've got a small distillery in Central Texas, kicking the idea around of leasing out the distillery. The main building is approximately 1,500 sqft with a separate building built for a tasting room 640sqft that is unfinished. Nice 5 acre property with a small lake, rolling hills in the area. Lot's of Saturday, motorcycle/sports car traffic. Great set up for tastings, concerts, festivals etc. limitless potential. 60K college students 20 miles away and roughly over 7 million people within an hour and half radius. This would be for a 5 year triple net lease with a 20K - 25K deposit held in escrow. We would still retain our brands and develop new ones, just thinking about getting out of the operation end of things and focus more on sales and marketing. Permits are current and would have to be assigned or new ones applied. This is a turnkey small distillery, nothing fancy but 4 years of hard work already in place.
  7. Margins and Laid in Costs

    Base on distributor margins - Is the general markup your seeing before or after laid in costs? Example - Distributor requires a 30% margin. - retailer marks up 40 points. Mfg Wholesale = $10.00 - Wholesaler marks up 43%, (30% margin) = $14.30 - Retailer marks up 40% (29% margin) = $20.02 or $19.99 shelf price or Mfg Wholesale = $10.00 - Wholesaler adds .75 laid in costs marks up 43%, (30% margin) = $15.37 - Retailer marks up 40% (29% margin) = $21.52 shelf price. What's the bottom your seeing a distributor willing to go on a minimum margin or per case price after laid in cost?
  8. Whiskey Systems. To Much Money???? thoughts??

    Depends on your size of production - If your doing a 1K cases a month I can see a value - If your a startup, it's a great deal for the guys selling it. Most of the distilleries that I'm seeing in Texas struggle to do a few hundred cases a year, for us it's a complete waste of money that can be spent on sales and marketing.
  9. What's the time frame for transfer in bond?

    Never more than a day or two
  10. Bartletts Distillery of Texas

    Congrats - Looks like your the 5th new distillery coming to the Houston area - for a total of 12
  11. Critique my business plan - ready to lease space in Denver

    I was going to ask you do your pizzarias sell beer/wine or any type of spirit? If so, check with the TTB. I was warned by the TTB that if I owned property and a tenant had a liquor license or sold beer with or without my knowledge I could be in serious trouble. Additionally that said don't drink beer or have beer in your fridge or that would be a violation keep it outside the leased premises. Anyone else get this warning when you were licensed?
  12. Capsule costs and sources

    Try enolplastic in California - We had the capsules custom fitted and made for our bottles with our logos and gold foil stamping. Ran roughly .04 a capsule plus about $800 for the tool and die set up.
  13. Critique my business plan - ready to lease space in Denver

    I'm not seeing storage tanks, Federal Bond, State Bond, Insurance, Bottling Equipment, Labelers, Cappers, your about 2K off on your lab equipment, Tool & Die setup, Labels, Bottles, Closures - the list goes on - probably double the number to be safe - If your in a city - you could have sprinkler issues, blast proof rooms etc.
  14. Whiskey Systems Online is 1 Year Old!

    Anyone see the value in the service? Seems extremely overpriced for a small guy. Just my two cents.
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