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  1. Very proud and blessed to say that we received our DSP within 20 days of submission early this fall. We did not use any direct consultant with the process, but we did seek the advice of friends and connections within the industry to ensure completeness and accuracy before our submission. Upon submitting the DSP we also reached out to our local/state government officials who were more than happy to put their name behind us to ensure quick turnaround.
  2. Good evening ADI Community! I wanted to pick some of your brains to see who has researched, tested, used, or is currently using a Simultaneous Saccharification and Fermentation (SSF) or even Simultaneous Saccharification and Co-Fermentation (SSCF) based method in their process. If you're unfamiliar, that's okay, because I don't think this is a widely used concept within the craft distillery industry. However, this is a widely-used process within the ethanol industry and seems to not only speed up your processing time, but potentially even increase your ethanol yield. For us distillers, this would basically mean incorporating our glucoamylase and yeast in series where they would basically run in parallel. Potential drawbacks? It seems one would have to have a GA and Yeast product that is tolerable of the temperature and pH requirements. With a little research this should be feasible for most spirits/mash bills (at least ours - I can't say I've looked into all the other cases). Potential Advantages? Higher ethanol yield, reduced processing/fermentation time. Want to do some Googling? Might want to start off with this free scholarly article - while a bit technical read to some, it has some great data and cool graphs for us visual nerds.
  3. You mean US-FIP, right? Do you have the US-FIP 15130 model? Can you provide your contact information?
  4. Not really true. The biggest things to keep in mind are BHP, installation cost (full install, skidded system, containerized system, boiler room reqs), and the boiler's turndown ratio and burner modulation. If you get a boiler that is 50 BHP and has a 2:1 turndown ratio it can not handle loads under 25 BHP without becoming very inefficient. It will cycle on and off all the time. Look for a 4 or 5:1 turndown ratio if possible, and a fully modulating firing rate. Modulating firing rate gives it the ability to modulate from the minimum BHP to the maximum BHP as required. If you get a Low-High-Low boiler it can only hit those firing rates. If you got a 50 BHP with a 5:1 turndown ratio fully modulating firing rate you would be able to go from 10 BHP load to 50 BHP and anywhere in between there while running efficiently. Confused yet or does that make sense?
  5. Good luck with the distillery! I recently went through all this, and it can become a headache if you ask around and get 15 different solutions. The true answer to your heat load (if you are only using one component at a time) is to take the biggest load and run a heat calculation on it. If you're unsure how to do this a few minutes of googling around and I guarantee you'll find some help. I created a bunch of spreadsheets for my chiller/boiler calcs so I through the numbers in there for you. I'm not sure of your process temperatures but I went to the end of both limits to ensure that you were covered. Your heat load, taking into account that your mash tun will not be 100% efficient, is ~275k BTU (to heat the mash tun in 90 minutes), which requires a boiler that can handle ~183k BTU/hr, minimum. To get to Boiler HP you divide by 33.471.30, which gives you a 5.5 BHP. Taking into account that a standard firetube steam boiler has an efficiency of 80% you require around 7 BHP and at minimum I would purchase a 10 BHP. The difference in price from 10 - 20 BHP, as the guys here have stated, is minimal... so think your decision making process through before going with a certain boiler. Hope this helps! John
  6. That pump says it is superceded by this one.
  7. Max Action, I'm curious, where did you get that the sale to Heaven Hill was for $350M? I had always wondered the amount it sold for, and everywhere I look it says it was undisclosed and valuated between $150M-$300M @ 500k cases annually (vs. the 350k you stated). I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just curious to find out for certain. That High West sale was something else, wasn't it? Note to self: If ever we make a whiskey we must tailor that use of rye appropriately!!
  8. Looks good, Odin! Whereabouts in NC is this one going? We might have to go check it out.
  9. Thank you FGS! We too love your vodka, and is that an ASD still you guys have? Looks great - good people there too. You guys have one of the coolest marketing videos too... I had to watch it two or three times. I'm sure the goat thought that vodka was a sure knockout... I know, I'll keep the day job... couldn't resist!
  10. Thanks, Doc! You found us - and we love your wheat vodka as well. Have a bottle of yours in our Raleigh office right now! There's a better building walkthrough at this link where you can see some of the really cool architecture from way, way back! We're not renovating the entire building before we open, we will first use the two smaller buildings which aren't vacant, Kinston's city workers were using it until we obtained it.
  11. Hello ADI community! I have been following you all here and learning from all of the great threads throughout this forum, but still haven't formally introduced myself. I will do so briefly today, as we are still extremely busy doing all of the things that must be done in order to start and maintain a successful DSP/Distillery. We hail from Raleigh, NC, but our distillery is in Kinston, NC and a few months out from launch. We're taking a different approach than most undertaking the daunting task of opening a distillery - quite a few years have gone into researching the industry, the big players, the small players, and of course, the steady stream of new players. This is truly an amazing market to get into if you do it the correct way, prepare yourself for the best and worst case scenarios, have the right team, and hold a very detailed, reviewed, and edited (many times) business plan. Big kudos to the warm welcome I've received from the people in the community that I've met thus far. The networking is great, and also necessary to help educate each other and maintain profitable and growing businesses. I've been able to visit a good majority of the NC distilleries, and quite a few in Virginia, W. Virginia, Tennessee, Iowa, Florida, and heck quite a few other states in the last year. EVERYONE does it both the same and different at the same time. By the same I mean we are all trying to sell a liquor product for profit, and most of us have similar processes depending on your product. By different I mean that we have some "grain to glass" distilleries, grain/GNS mixed distilleries, and some people who simply blend and bottle spirits. I fully predict a big change in the regulatory department in the next 5-10 years due to the growth and inconsistency in production right now, so I find it of utmost importance to learn your niche/process and become an absolute subject matter expert on it. Shortcuts are shortcuts for a reason, and there cannot be enough said for "Right First Time" in a start-up / entrepreneurial business - especially if you have a financial backing/investors. From a milestones standpoint, we received our Wholesaler's permit on Monday, and today we got approval on our DSP application! Record time to from what I've seen - took us around a month to get approval. I have every intention of putting some major thoughts on starting a distillery, the processes/checkboxes, the experience we had, etc. once we get running for a few months. I've learned so much - and had a blast the whole way. Cheers, John
  12. Pete, 100% in agreement with that. I will say also that although he has to deal with the dyslexia issues (which I can't empathize with personally), I've picked his brain plenty of times and seen his brain take off as he thinks through processes or technical questions. He's actually very smart - not the best with words though on a computer... agreed .
  13. I see this is an old thread, and I hate to bring up old garbage, but I am about two months from launching what we think to be a very successful distillery and brand. Our team did 3+ years of research prior to bringing ME on full time to complete the facility, equipment, and product design. I'm a smart, educated, chemical and biomolecular engineer who always wanted to start my own business/product and see it through to completion. Combined with the expertise of an amazing sales, marketing, and start-up savvy individuals we have brought together a huge backing and will start at a very large scale, very soon. At the beginning of the year, I had no experience making hooch. I understand distillation, thermodynamics, mass and fluid transport, etc., from my education, and my background is process design and aspectic batch manufacturing, so I would say I have some relevant "real world" experience. When I sought out people to help bring me up to speed, there were quite a few prospects. Joe was one of them. One thing stood out to me - Joe clearly had a passion for the distillery business. His passion for hooch exceedingly surpassed his desire for $$$. He was also very knowledgeable in our multiple 2+ hour conversations on the phone prior to me flying to see him. I developed a proposal for his professional distillery services. It was very detailed - I wanted to be sure that if I was going to pay a couple thousand dollars, fly out to Iowa, and spend a few days with him that it wouldn't be a waste. He accepted, I went there, accomplished all items on the agenda, and made a friend in the same day. He took me out to lunch/dinner on his OWN dollar, once to twice a day. He would work with me from 8 AM until I was too tired to keep going on (at night). He was not focused on making money, but instead focused on helping me - which, in this day, is extremely hard to find. Five months later I have about 80% of the equipment procured, our DSP is about a week from approval, our engineering design for the building fitup is complete and construction is underway. Not one hitch - and I can't credit Joe with all of that, as we have worked tirelessly 7 days a week (literally) obsessing over every detail of the process. Note - this post is unsolicited, 100%. I have actually been looking into developing multiple revenue streams via private labeling for others with an automated bottling line and came across this thread. It truly, truly angered me to see people attacking Joe on here. Question - Do you actually know Joe? Did he build you a still? Did he help you with your initial equipment layout, design, or procurement? Or, instead, does he threaten you in some way? Life is short. There's not many quality people left these days - Joe is one of them. I endorse him on behalf of his overall distillery-related knowledge and on the account of being a good-hearted person. Cheers, all! Rant off.
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  15. Thank you sir. It is harder to come by here as well, but we have found farmers willing to take on the task. I appreciate the info!