nabtastic

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  1. what's your pH throughout your ferm?
  2. Haha touche. There's actually not a lot of it since HC&S closed down. I think we're now one of the biggest sugarcane farms in Hawaii at 20~ acres! Syrup and molasses (IMHO) should be treated more-or-less the same in this regards. Both have been extensively heat treated and stored in exceptionally high osmotic conditions. Few organisms *should* pose much of a threat as long as your ferm requirements are met. It may or may not be handy to test for FAN content (probably less of an issue for y'all since the syrup will contain more consistent field and harvest conditions)
  3. Or are you starting from syrup?
  4. Oh, so we aren't talking about using fresh juice from the mill? But standard shelf-stable crystallized sugar? I thought this was about "agricole" not "industrial".
  5. The juice is diluted from the mill. A typical (large) roller mill set up will step the cane in hot water bath on its way to the mill (removes dirty n rocks), then its crushed (high pressure = heat), then the bagasse is steeped in hot water before going through the second set of rollers, then steeped and press again. This lowers the starting gravity down to 10 brix or so from as high as 24 brix. Bakers should still give you a quick ferment though.
  6. whiskey

    it's probably floc but could be beta-sitosterols from the wood as well. I've filtered to 1 micron and still had issues with it but only in barrel aging. Chill filtering will work but you'll alter the flavor (all filtration will alter the flavor profile regardless of hype). Racking might lessen the issue if you cold crash it - which is the same principal behind chill filtering. It's most likely floc from fatty acids. I don't know for certian but I'd bet this is at least partially the reason some of the established distilleries carbon filter before and after aging. Since we do single-pass spirit runs I'm experimenting with condenser hygiene which will be super annoying if it ends up "solving" our issue since I have to dismantle the still to clean it.
  7. No doubt that you dont need a degree (I dont have a (relevant) degree and I like to think my hooch is good..) but the "big boys" definitely do. MGP probably wouldn't hire me just yet to take over their Rye program... Regardless of what you read in a text book, hands on is necessary (imho) for context.
  8. Oooh gotcha. My apologies
  9. Our brand manager has a master's in Chemistry but found his calling bartending, becoming one of the best known and respected mixoligist out here before getting into rhum. For some people it's more important to enjoy what they're doing than to make less money doing something they hate. I also expect there to be a lot of chemist and engineering people in the industry given that it's the very fundamentals of what we do. Moonshiner's may not need a chemical engineering background to make hooch but tweaker's don't need a *chemistry* degree to make meth either. Chalk it up to one's own standards, I suppose..
  10. That's added to the wish list..
  11. No separate collection for fusel oils but they do vent (although I doubt rectification is high enough to matter). I think they must be fairly in efficient in terms of alcohol recovery. I also ran across a company that was doing double distillation in traditional armagnac stills for young spirits, which I had thought was unheard of.
  12. has anybody came across an armagnac still being produced? Anyone have experience using one?
  13. Oh I gotcha, I think this is the classic car of pasteurized v sterilized. Follow up question, given lactic acids positive contribution to mouthfeel, do you foresee distilleries intentionally bringing in a malo-lactic ferment into the program? (Idk enough about wine to know how long that step normally takes)...or am I completely off base?
  14. Or the majority of Scotch whisky. Buying, aging, blending, treating - what have you - is not wrong unless you misrepresent the product. Blending is a true art. Nobody cares where they get their fix from as long as they don't feel duped in the process. Do I care that a corvette is only "mostly made" in America? No. Because it's fast and sexy and I'd pay a premium to not be in a Prius (which is also largely made in America but I digress...). Just don't add water and claim it's "local". Customers care about taste and honesty.
  15. apparently lysozymes (gram - ) and celloferm work well, just fyi
  16. Not trying to start a rap-battle here, but wouldn't the actual process of mashing count as pasteurization? flash pasteurizing is 15 seconds at 160 for juices I believe... obviously that doesn't change the fact that lacto can be practically epidemic in open ferments
  17. just trolling I assume..
  18. It's just a piece of leather.. check out a local supplier and cut it yourself. I no longer have a hoga (new employer) but it took me a couple tries to get our replacement. He actually recommended that I cut my own but sent me a replacement anyway. You may be able to buy a flat gasket and use an adhesive to attach it to the door as someone previously mentioned.
  19. super old thread but figured I could throw in an answer: 1) cognac is distilled in a fairly simple pot still with a wash pre-heater. It's double distillation is similar to that of whisk(e)y else where in the world...brief heads removal, collect hearts and redistill. Armagnac is basically a modified analyzer column. The wash is preheated in the spirit condenser, which flows into the upper trays ( a few below the partial condenser/dephleg), and drops down through the column where it comes in contact with a series of trays and steam before being stripped of alcohol and washing out the bottom of the column. Cognac is batch distillation, armagnac is continuous, but with low rectification levels thus the higher congener (flavor) profiles 2) it's probably distilled 4x before it gets to Tito's and then they distill it the final time hahahahaha (reference the fifth generation lawsuits floating around...) 3) That depends on your spirit run, style of spirit, etc but in my opinion, you should pull heads on every run to some degree. destroy the foreshots (early heads) and recycle the rest into your low wine run. Fancy continuous stills vent the most volatile components or de-methylate them.
  20. well those are certainly pricey. It would be super handy though. We fill by weight w an intrinsically safe scale by Arlyn. Gotta keep an eye towards the end though - 1# difference can mean a spill. As for food grade - I can't speak to the Huskey that's mentioned above but most nozzles have aluminum in them which doesn't play well with ethanol. There are a few out there made specifically for booze though. I imagine that's where this Huskey came from. Forklifts need to be XP in the distillery (EX for electric). I'm betting that they just want to know that you've taken safety into consideration and want to see a plan so that they can wipe their hands clean in a unfortunate event.
  21. Anybody have recommendations on purchasing kits to test for YAN? I'm looking to test in-house levels of YAN in our fresh sugarcane juice. I know it will vary by field, variety, harvest times, time since last fertilization, etc. I'm sending off for HPLC to establish a baseline but I'd like to get an idea of each field's N levels. I'm looking for solutions under $1k which I suppose would include sending off for lab testing.. This assay kit is where I'm at so far. Thanks!
  22. Yes! This is exactly what I'm looking for. Have you used this before or are you just better at Google than I am? Lol Thanks. I'll add that to the procurement list and let y'all know how it goes.
  23. FinishedRye - talk to some freight forwarders and get shipping quotes/estimates. shop around as prices will vary considerably. It may be beneficial for you to buy bulk spirits in totes or larger and ship barrels separately. An empty 53gal weighs 110#. Some will stack 8, most will stack 4 to a pallet. Filled barrel should be #500+ as mentioned previously.
  24. sadly just saw this post but I'm curious as to the responses as well. Best of luck to you.
  25. I don't follow where you going with that