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jwalla

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  1. Steve, Dunbar, Thanks so much for taking the time to respond. In doing some research I've happened to find a couple places doing exactly what I'd like to do and you described above, even as it sounds contrary to the law. The road I'm on now is how to jump through the same hoops they jumped through. You've both been extremely helpful. Thanks.
  2. Thanks for the responses guys. I probably should have been a little clearer though. Rather than just a 1oz tastings, I would be interested in having a place where people could come and purchase cocktails, have a $10 G&T or Gimlet, etc. Really branch out and show off what our products could do, while also providing a nice return. We are in a control state so there are strict laws about distillers technically providing anything more than a taste, I just wondered if you could, for example, wall off half the building with a separate entrance, build a bar, and serve visitors who came for tours or seminars in the adjoining space drinks of their choice, filled with your spirits. It's pretty confusing.
  3. Hi All, I checked pretty thoroughly on this and couldn't find much, so apologies if it has been covered. Let's say you plan to build in a state that doesn't allow tasting rooms, but having one and selling drinks/cocktails is a necessity starting out. Could you build a 'bar' with liquor license in an attached facility and only stock it with and serve your own spirits? Two separate business entities, but some physical connection so they appear seamless to customers and patrons. Would this work? I feel like there has to be some loophole here that would make this possible, but on the other hand if none of you ingenious distillers have done it yet, it might be unlikely. Thanks.
  4. Not to thread jack, but is there a way to take used barrels and shave out part of the inside, rechar, and use them again as bourbon barrels? I know bourbon barrels have to be "new" so I'm not sure if this is A) Possible, or Even a loophole. In the future I imagine barrels are only going to be harder to get hold of, and I remember reading one urban myth about the origination of charred barrels claiming that early distillers would use barrels that contained other items like fish, etc, and charred the inside to remove any element of the prior contents of the barrel. Just curious.
  5. Do we have any chemists on these boards who can shine some light on this? http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140804/191695712/Russias-Sanitary-Authority-Finds-Dangerous-Elements-in-US.html
  6. I read that as well. It's shocking that almost, almost everyone I talk to that's been in the business for a long time seems OK with sourcing other people's whiskey and selling it as their own, since they say that's how most people get started. Personally, I think it's dishonest at best. Wow, you went to a facility that makes bourbon and hand picked or mixed your own barrels and are now selling them as your own? Whopity do. If craft whiskey and distilleries lose the massive amounts of momentum and brand recognition they have now, it won't be due to the big guys, it'll be because we brought it on ourselves.
  7. Congrats smoog! Well deserved!
  8. Bluestar, I tried to send you a PM but it says your inbox is full.
  9. You guys are the best. So if I figure 250X8.35X140 (210degrees-70degrees) = ~300,000 btu. If I figure I might want to run both at the same time I'd double it to 600k. Back to the drawing board for more quotes around the 700k-800k btu range. Figure I want to leave a little slack and compensate for inefficiencies as well. Hopefully this will reduce the cost at least a little bit since that's ultimately the goal. I didn't mean to hijack the boiler price thread, but this will probably be more useful than the original question.
  10. Hi Nat. Sorry. I mistyped that. I meant 15 psi. I was told the 2 basic options are low pressure <15psi and high pressure >15psi. So I have no idea what the HP is for such a device, but have heard most people get by with low pressure. I went to a distilling seminar where the rule of thumb was 1,000btu per liter you'd need to heat. 250g still is roughly 1,000l so that's where I got the million. If I could get by with smaller I'd gladly do it, but I don't want it screaming as I try and run mash tun / still simultaneously.
  11. You're all gentleman and scholars. Thanks for the feedback. I guess that leaves option 1 of going w a much smaller boiler and not running the mash tun and still at the same time, or option 2 of going with the cheapest bidder, although given some of your responses it sounds like you get what you pay for in the boiler world. Definitely food for thought.
  12. Hi Guys, I've scoured the forum pretty well, as well as contacted what I think are most of the big boiler guys in my area, and I have to say I'm having some real sticker shock when it comes to boiler cost. Everyone I've contacted about a 15hp / 1mill btu / low pressure steam boiler with installation is coming in between $65,000-$90,000. I had no idea these were that expensive, and it blows up my start up costs significantly. I obviously don't want to cut corners on the heart of my operation. Would you mind giving me a ballpark as to boiler cost of some of your operations, and if you were satisfied with what you purchased? I just want to know whether I'm getting worked over here or if that number is legit. Thanks a ton. Justin
  13. Hi Everyone, You've all provided me with a ton of invaluable assistance as I've started my journey so I thought I'd post the link to this map if you all haven't seen it yet. The tax council has calculated state excise taxes for each state including control states. Apologies if it's already been covered but it was the first I'd seen of it. http://taxfoundation.org/blog/map-spirits-excise-tax-rates-state-2014
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