brokenstraw Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Any idea what kind of hardware and cost it will take to have closed loop water cooling system for a 200 gallon stil with 4 plate whiskey column and 16 plate vodka column? As I understand that location matters, l am in the Northeast (specifically SE PA). Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG Thermal Consulting Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I would say somewhere around $15K for chiller, piping, poly reservoir tank (if you intend on mash cooling) and process pump. Does not include wiring or labor, around 3 days for piping and not too much extra on wiring since electricians will be there for the other equipment (unless this is an add on). Does this help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenstraw Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 Very helpful. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenstraw Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 How big of a poly tank would I need to cool a 300 gal mash tun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fstmatt Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Some manufactures will have an engineer on staff that can help answer the question. We ended up with a 100 gallon tank, but we're given uneducated suggestions ranging from 10,000 gallons (really) to "why do you need a tank?". Also, there is nothing special about the tank, so one could be added if the system is getting dogged down. If you call your manufacturer, these are the questions they will ask: what is the temp you are starting with, what temp are trying to get to, how quickly, and how much total. Try calling Whaley Chillers. They were very helpful with me and have a lot of different configurations available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG Thermal Consulting Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Depends how you match up the chiller to it for the entire cooling load, but certainly more than the volume of the mash. The long and short of it for chiller design as far as energy efficiency is to use the highest temperature tolerable which lets you use lower HP/ton of refrigeration cooling. I have seen installs where the distillery uses 25F glycol to start the mash cool and lets the chiller lose ground until it winds up at over 70F. This is a very wasteful concept because it costs you nearly twice the energy to make 25F glycol as 50F water (or glycol). I try to use the most energy efficient concepts in designing systems along with down to earth explanations that is appreciated by clients. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenstraw Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 Thanks guys. I appreciate the advice. In all liklihood, I'll be seeking a consutant for this, but I'd like to have a ballpark idea and figure for what I'm getting myself into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 If you are looking for a cooling consultant, you can't do much better than MG Thermal, who responded to your post! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG Thermal Consulting Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Thanks for the thumbs up Mike! Just went over the plans with the mechanical installing a new system in downtown, Buffalo's historic district. I lived in the burbs of Buffalo for many years and I'm sure glad the downtown area is being revitalized. The distillery will be practically next door to Shea's playhouse, another historic building, and hopes to draw the theatre crowd for tastings. I think it's going to be a record year for openings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenstraw Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 That's awesome. I grew up south of buffalo. I'm a big Sabres and Bills fan. I'm also glad to the Queen Coty bounce back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluestone Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 How did Sammy Watkins do this year? He was awesome for Clemson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenstraw Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 How did Sammy Watkins do this year? He was awesome for Clemson. He did great on a sub par offense with a not so good QB. Next year could be rough with a coaching change and new QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG Thermal Consulting Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 My Bro who lives in Binghamton usually skipes me and we watch together, both good and bad Bills! Watkins wasn't the same after he was hurt, same as a lot of rookies who have a hard time with the beatings of a long season. I had season tickets during the 90's superbowl runs and there wasn't anything that was close to that excitement (and the agony either, ugh!). Haven't been to a game since '99 Same for me, Sabres after the Bills season was done..."No Goal!" rants up there with the "Music City Backwards Pass". Well, at least the Bills coach will have plenty to say next year!! Good luck to you on the start-up! (A few guys are opening up in the Lehigh Valley, have to talked to them?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenstraw Posted February 1, 2015 Author Share Posted February 1, 2015 I know if a couple places that are young or are looking to open County Seat, Thistle Finch, Manatawny Still Works, and a few others. The craft is certainly alive and well in our area. I haven't reached out to them specifically, but plan to as I continue to develop my plans. I was younger during the 90's SB runs and it's still vivid in my mind and heartbreaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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