HR 5034, Contact your Senator and Congressman Proposed Fed Regulation Needs Opposition
#1
Posted 31 May 2010 - 02:27 PM
You may learn more about what portends to be a devastating blow to the small distiller trying to introduce new brands. Several articles and major groups oppose the bill including: STOP HR 5034, which website is located at:
http://www.stophr5034.com/
This is an issue that concerns every small distiller. Please visit the site and review the info and then contact your State and Federal representatives to voice your opposition to this blatant attempt to undermine the COMMERCE CLAUSE of the Constitution. This is serious stuff. The site also offers you the opportunity to send off a letter of opposition through the site to your Congressmen and Senators.
Read the info. Voice your opinion here. But more importantly, CONTACT YOUR CONGRESSMAN AND SENATORS.
#2
Posted 31 May 2010 - 02:43 PM
You can find more information at www.discus.org
Here is a good link to start:
http://www.discus.or...asp?NEWS_ID=593
Wes Henderson
#3
Posted 31 May 2010 - 09:42 PM
Anyway, for what it's worth, here's my letter to my congressman...
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I am writing you to strongly urge your vote against HR 5034.
The Commerce Clause of the Constitution protects us against State economic protectionism and discriminatory actions against interstate commerce. HR 5034 however would weaken the Commerce Clause in favor of the alcohol wholesalers who have written the bill, while severely hurting smaller wine, beer and spirits producers and retailers. These producers rely on the ability to reach consumers without contending with the barrier of a state-sanctioned wholesaler wherever possible. Thus, we see less consumer choice in terms of the products they may buy. If the smaller producer cannot convince the "gatekeeper" wholesaler to even carry their product, let alone promote it, both consumers and producers stand to lose if there is no direct way for the producer to reach the consumer. And when those many smaller producers fail as a result, both the States and the Federal government lose the enormous tax revenues these producers contribute!
I sincerely hope you realize that constituents like me will not stand for YET MORE legislation supporting special interests like the alcohol wholesaler lobby to the detriment of consumers and smaller producers -- all couched in the language of "states rights." After the Big Banks and the Big Oil, it's really time for congress to take a stand in favor of the little guy... and I am one of them. I supported you in your political campaigns. Now I need your support against HR 5034.
Sincerely,
Chris Martin
#9
Posted 08 June 2010 - 10:23 AM
HR 5034 PRESENTS TANGIBLE THREAT TO CONSUMERS, AS WELL AS WINEMAKERS, WINE MERCHANTS, BREWERS AND DISTILLERS
Wholesalers Attempting to Dupe Congress
June 8, 2010, Napa, CA – The nation’s winemakers, brewers, and distillers have each issued statements urging Congress not to consider House Resolution 5034. Meanwhile, wine wholesalers cynically claim the bill would have no effect on current laws.
Drawing from producer statements, HR 5034 presents significant, tangible threats to thousands of businesses – most of which are family-owned and operated – and millions of consumers who enjoy wine, beer and spirits. More specifically:
• Winemakers: HR 5034 Will Decrease Consumer Choice, Increase Prices:
States could pass laws that discriminated against interstate wine commerce and, if HR 5034 passed, make it nearly impossible to overturn them in federal courts. This would turn the clock back on consumer choice from the nation’s 6,000+ US wineries. Over the past 12 years, the number of states that allow legal, regulated winery-to-consumer shipments has grown from 17 to 37; these states represent 83% of wine consumption. Additionally, states could pass laws allowing wholesalers to fix prices and, if HR 5034 passed, these laws would be immune from challenge on federal antitrust grounds.
• HR 5034 Will Bankrupt Wineries:
Only 17% of wineries are distributed nationally, and 54% of them were unable to find a wholesaler in states where they actively sought representation, according to a survey by Wine Institute, a public policy trade association representing more than 900 California wineries. As a result, many wineries now rely on direct sales to survive. If a winery cannot secure distribution, but is prohibited from selling to its customers directly, the winery will be locked out of the market.
• Brewers: HR 5034 Intended to “Protect In-State Interests.”
In its May newsletter, the Beer Institute warned of “unintended consequences” of HR 5034 and that, if passed, “…imposes a virtually insurmountable burden on anyone challenging an unfair, anticompetitive or even unconstitutional state law regulating alcohol beverages.” The Brewers Association warned that the bill would allow states to enact new laws to “heighten discriminatory treatment of out-of-state brewers (and beer importers) or to limit or ban commercial activities that wholesalers do not like.”
• Distillers: State-Imposed Price Fixing:
The Distilled Spirits Council of the U.S. wrote Congress that HR 5034 has been misrepresented as “no big deal, but it is in fact a big deal.” States could “set their own labeling requirements,” impose price fixing, give tax advantages and consumer convenience measures such as Sunday sales only to in-state distillers and companies. According to the Kentucky Distillers Association, the bill would allow states to establish their own formulas, labeling and bottling standards for Bourbon, concocting their own whiskey and calling it ‘Bourbon,’ thus overriding uniform federal requirements and 200 years of American heritage.
“Contrary to wholesaler claims of solving a ‘problem,’ HR 5034 is a legal distortion and full-scale attack on the balance of federal and state laws that prevent monopoly protections for wholesalers in each state,” said Jeremy Benson, executive director of Free the Grapes!, a national grassroots coalition of consumers, wineries and wine retailers.
Wineries
Representing wineries across the U.S., a joint statement by Wine Institute and WineAmerica was issued May 17: “Oppose H.R. 5034 – Wholesalers Monopoly Protection Bill.”
Brewers
The Beer Institute’s May newsletter
The Brewers Association statement in opposition to H.R. 5034
Distillers
Separately, the Distilled Spirits Council of the United States, and the Kentucky Distillers’ Association issued statements in May.
Discus: Controversial "State-Based Alcohol Regulation" Bill Will Undermine Longstanding Framework of Alcohol Control (H.R. 5034).
Kentucky Distillers Association: “Bill Could ‘Wipe Out Centuries of Kentucky Craftsmanship, Quality and Heritage.’”
Since April 20, wine lovers have sent more than 35,000 letters through www.freethegrapes.org to Congress in opposition to HR 5034.
For more information on Free the Grapes’ response to HR 5034
#10
Posted 08 June 2010 - 11:20 AM
#12
Posted 18 June 2010 - 11:50 AM
This is what ultimately will get the law changed and why the distributors want HR 5034. Big manufacturers want to deal directly with big retailers. Is this good or bad for you guys, who are not big anything? I think it's good. The 3-tier system benefits no one but the distributors. Certainly not the consumers.
#13
Posted 26 June 2010 - 07:25 AM
The small producer starting out has time and luxury (some don't consider it a luxury, we do) of going out at the start to personally introduce their products first in their home region. At some point if the producer is successful, there will not be enough time to make the juice, bottle it, pack it, make introductions, take orders and deliver the goods (we know this from personal experience); and so at that point a wholesaler becomes a partner in your biz by taking on all the logistical side while the producer concentrates on production and promotion. A good partner in distribution can make the difference between remaining a local brand, or moving out Statewide, or Nationally.
That said, the "three tiered system" is arcane and unnecessary in the year 2010. When the system was introduced there was no common use of television or even telephones for that matter, no internet, no personal computers or cell phones. There was no overnight delivery of retail goods ordered by phone or internet (as with wine) Regional farms were ubiquitous. And no micro distilleries. All that is changed.
In NY State micro distilling licenses come with the right to acquire a Wholesale license and self-distribute (an example how the system is fatally flawed, in NY State a micro-producer may hold a wholesaler's license, a direct violation of the Federal three tier system, a violation which the Fed totally ignores), it is how Tuthilltown launched its HUDSON brand. It was necessary. At the start, as many small producers quickly learn, we could get no distributors to give us a second look. Self-distribution allowed us to get a solid regional base, including the Metropolitan area; by which we attracted the attention of distributors. The ability of small distillers to sell into other States directly increases the ability of the producer to survive and if their product is good and accepted, prosper. And interstate commerce is a good thing.
Unfortunately it raises the issue of State's rights (in this case a red herring dragged through the debate in an effort to stall it in favor of wholesalers). There are mechanisms can be employed (indeed in place) to give individual States the control over distribution they need and to which they have a Constitutional right. If the system is continued, it should not be a Federally mandated system. If the States have the right to control distribution and sales, that should also include control over the right of retailers to purchase goods legally from the producers who want to bring their goods into that State. It should be a State decision to join and insist the three-tier system in that State if it chooses, or drop the system entirely.
In my opinion the three-tier system has outlived its usefulness and needs be abandoned by the Fed as a national system. The Commerce Clause should control interstate commerce with respect to spirits sales and individual States should be required by the Fed to allow interstate sale of spirits by the producers direct to the on and off premise accounts.
The honest, hardworking Wholesaler will gain as the smaller producers grow and need them. There is a place for Wholesalers in the system, but they have to earn it like the rest of us, rather than have a government guarantee of their place in the world.
Ralph
#14
Posted 26 June 2010 - 07:04 PM
#15
Posted 28 June 2010 - 09:43 AM
The world is changed. Business has changed. It's time for individual States to change, rewrite alcohol law. The most, correction, the ONLY way this will happen is with the pushing and prodding and lobbying of the small distillers who show their actual faces, the new Face of spirits production (small producers with families employing locally, using local raw materials) get their issues before their State Legislators. Point away from alcohol and to: tax revenue, rural economic development, tourism, tax revenue, jobs creation, agriculture preservation, TAX REVENUE! (Oh, did I say that already?)It is possible to change State laws, total amateur lobbyists that we are (were) we managed to change NY State Law, more than once in favor of the small producer. And if it's possible in NY, it's possible elsewhere.
#16
Posted 28 June 2010 - 10:53 AM
In Wisconsin, the 4 Noes are embodied in a section of Statutes 125 titled 'Relations with Retailers'. That section pretty much reflects the CFR chapters. But WI goes further and applies Tied House to the producer / wholesaler tier. On the other hand, we (in WI) don't have to deal with franchise law (at least for wine/spirits) - which I view as the inverse of Exclusive Outlet. Interesting system - bar IMs from making exclusive deals with retailers - but mandate it for producers & wholesalers.
WI also mandates a certain path to market. Who can sell to whom. The Feds don't seem to delve into that side at all.
It hadn't occured to me before - but my notes above show two side to the 'three tier system'. Once side deals with money and market influence. The CFR deals with that, and makes it two tiers. The other side deals with physical flow of alcohol - forcing through a specific value (ha) chain. The States seem to have created that system - and it surely has different motives and effects.
#17
Posted 28 June 2010 - 10:55 AM
It's going to get really interesting here in Washington when the public goes to the voting booth this fall.
cowdery, on 18 June 2010 - 12:50 PM, said:
This is what ultimately will get the law changed and why the distributors want HR 5034. Big manufacturers want to deal directly with big retailers. Is this good or bad for you guys, who are not big anything? I think it's good. The 3-tier system benefits no one but the distributors. Certainly not the consumers.
#18
Posted 28 June 2010 - 10:57 AM
There is a short history of post-Prohibition federal regulation on the TTB web site here.
There was a lot of concern when Prohibition was repealed about preventing what were perceived as abuses pre-Prohibition. The primary concern was "tied houses" and similar measures whereby producers controlled retailers. You can still find on the books federal rules against tied houses, commercial bribery and other forms of coercion, but I can't find anyplace at the federal level where placing a distributor between the producer and the retailer is the federally prescribed solution.
In the official statements of opposition to H.R. 5034 by DISCUS and others, they are always careful to endorse states rights and the three-tier system. If, however, the goal is open competition one certainly can argue that the three-tier system as it currently exists is more of a hindrance to competition than a help. Distributors have become the competitive "choke point."
#19
Posted 28 June 2010 - 04:21 PM
The TTB site says the one of the goals for the various Federal legislation set up post-Prohibition was
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The current system at the state level doesn't do that.
Physically: 144 Delaware Street, Walton, NY 13856 USA
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On the web: www.delawarephoenix.com
#20
Posted 29 June 2010 - 05:37 PM
The other question: "Does (your State) mandate an actual, so named 'three tiered system' for the sale and distribution of alcoholic beverages in the State?"
My cursory review of NY State ABC Law reveals no legislative mandate mentioning the system. If the phrase even exists in NY State law, I can't find it. It may be an invention of the SLA under it's assigned duty to "promulgate regulations" which describe how the law is to be enforced. But that is not the same as "the Law" enacted by the Legislature and signed by the Governor.
Is the "system" a big hoax, or misinterpretation so long in place and so ubiquitous it goes unquestioned? Or are we just all not seeing it, please if that is so, someone point us all in the right direction.


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