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#1 Jedd Haas

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 02:58 PM

It looks like I need to buy a padlock. The TTB is unwilling to suggest a brand that meets their requirements, but perhaps someone can suggest a particular brand and model of padlock that cut the mustard?

I'm copying the TTB specs below for reference and the further amusement of anyone who hasn't seen them yet.

(e) Approved locks.
(1) Approved locks shall be used to secure:
(i) Outdoor tanks containing spirits in the storage account or on an enclosure around such tanks;
(ii) Indoor tanks containing spirits in the storage account or on the door from which access may be gained from the outside to the rooms or buildings in which such tanks are housed; and
(iii) Any doors from which access may be gained from the outside to rooms or buildings containing spirits in portable bulk containers in the storage account.
(2) Approved locks shall meet the following minimum specifications:
(i) Corresponding serial number on the lock and on the key, except for master key locking systems;
(ii) Case hardened shackle at least one-fourth inch in diameter, with heel and toe locking;
(iii) Body width of at least 2 inches
(iv) Captured key feature (key may not be removed while shackle is unlocked);
(v) Tumbler with at least 5 pins; and
(vi) Lock or key contains no bitting data.

#2 Paul Tomaszewski

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 03:25 PM

Print out the specs just in case, bring it to a hardware store, they will have to call Master Lock and order them for you. The model number for those specs SHOULD BE 6850MKNR. I'd get a few God keys (that open all of them) with the order, they'll also come with individual keys for each lock. You're welcome.

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 03:36 PM

You can use this model, whihc is on teh TTB site and I have used in past DSP applications: Medco Padlocks (width 2 5/8 x shackle dim. 7/16). -SJ

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 06:17 PM

hi Paul, I found the 6850 on the Master site, although no mention of the MKNR variation.
http://www.masterloc...OM_PRODUCT_6850

I'm going to check with some lock guys and see what they have to say. Does MKNR refer to the "captured key feature?" It seems that the base model specs of the 6850 cover the other ttb requirements.

Steve, did you mean "Medeco's Premium High Security Padlocks" per this page?
http://www.medeco.co...d=26&Itemid=288

Do you have the link to the page on the TTB site that shows this lock? I searched both google and the ttb site for "padlock" and "medeco" but came up blank.

Thanks, guys, and please keep any suggestions coming.

#5 Paul Tomaszewski

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 07:49 PM

The letters, if memory serves me correct, is some added features to include the captured key. Typical hardware stores/home improvement places won't have them in stock, that's why you have to ask them to special order the locks.

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 08:08 PM

Another option is the ABUS 83/50. This is what our local locksmith recommended after showing him the specs. He keyed them all the same and set them to capture the key.

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 08:56 PM

Got a Master Locksmith I can run this by for you if you like- but either of those sound like they would work.
Just make sure the wall on either side of the lock will hold up to a large sawz all to or equivalent.Posted Image

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 09:40 AM

http://www.grainger....es/govtlock.pdf

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 01:05 PM

Bringing this topic back with an extra question:

Our facility only has one entry/exit, which is the front door (two if you count the roll-up door to the loading dock).

We can't padlock the door, because it's also the fire exit. The locksmith recommended a storeroom lock that requires a key to get in, but anyone can get out.

What's the usual recourse here? Anyone run into trouble over an "unusual" lock like this?

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 12:03 PM

Will these suffice?

http://www.grainger....d-Padlock-1XRV5


They use the word 'key control' on this page, however on the catalog page, they say key-retaining.

"Battalion™ padlocks are key retaining and have stainless steel bodies to
provide enhanced corrosion resistance."


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Posted 06 March 2013 - 06:06 PM

Thanks for the info!

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Posted 02 June 2014 - 09:06 AM

Old thread, thought I would add a good experience..

 

filled out an online request at masterlock website, requesting key retaining, no numbers on keys(no bitting data) and laser etched logo..

 

the order was forwarded to Hodge products ( hpionline.com ), and rep Camie answered all my questions and sent me a proof of the etching before ordering was complete..  a couple weeks to receive locks...  very happy...

 

got 7 series 6850 locks for ~$160 shipped...  the laser etching is really deep and will not wear off...

 

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