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    Why wouldn't you just use something like of Hoffman Watchman returning to a larger condensate tank? Or directly back to the boiler if it's the only condensate generating device (it doesn't have a water feeder, not ideal). It's about 6" off the deck, or you could plumb a tee into the lower drain port, which is at ground level.
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    ADI uses a licensed importer to receive all of our competition entries which allows entrants to ship from licensee to licensee.
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    Concerning the condensate return connections on stills. We raised ours, on most stills, from 12" to 15" to 18", sometime back. I would love to make them 24", however, if I standardize that in my designs it would lead to lots of other issues, with most customers. Most of the time we barely meet the customers height restrictions as it is. Raising the condensate return connect higher would mean that we could not meet the height requirements that many of our customers have. Also if the still is a 200 gallon or larger, it makes the manway much harder to access because of the height. Also with stills with offset columns, the base of the offset column must be high enough above the liquid level in the pot, so that gravity will overcome the pressure created by the liquid level above each plate. On our ultra pro vodka stills, this means that the base of the column must be 18" to 20" above the liquid level in the pot because there is 17" of juice above the plates at high reflux. Anyway, these are the reasons why most still manufacturers have their condensate returns at around 12" above the floor. I would appreciate any suggestions that anyone has concerning how to overcome these issues to standardize a higher condensate return connection. Thank you.
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    If you get a fedex license for shipping alcohol you should not have problems shipping spirits to any legit competition in the US
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    We use low pressure DSI. Usually sub 12 pounds. It’s remarkably efficient.
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    Look for a manufacturer in your area, as otherwise shipping will be a significant added expense. Also try to confirm they are actually the manufacturer, rather than a broker or re-seller, as that will also increase your cost.
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    Wait you mean something made by Corson wasn't made correctly? Thats a shocker!!!
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    No worries. It is Thanksgiving week I am sure we all have Turkey on our minds. Thank you for the email! Happy Thanksgiving.
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    Depends on what part of the country I guess, but I used this guy in the Pacific NW with great results. James Solan Pacific Container Corporation PCCBox.com (206) 799-9544 James@PCCBox.com
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    Blowdown separators are more about what the local inspector requires, and may be unnecessary on smaller boilers. We do not use them. https://www.maddenmfg.com/blog/What-does-blow-down-separator-do.cfm Both the brands look decent. The Sellers being a one pass Firetube design is interesting. I prefer the Scotch Marine Firetube boiler to any other design in terms of long term ruggedness and reliability. There are a lot of good ones out there. I do not care for Cleaver Brooks in the least and they have been one of the most problem laden brands I have ever worked on. Same with Hurst, which is another brand I'll never run again. For 60 HP I would definitely go with a Scotch Boiler. This guy has some good resources: BrewingwithSteam.com . I have seen a good many systems in the field which are not set up correctly with respect to how the feedwater and condensate return are handled. its important to realize that things can seem to work in these instances, but they are not working correctly and in some cases it can get dangerous. You are much better off in terms of controlling corrosion if you can keep your system active 24-7. The best way to do this is to use it to heat water for all you hot water needs. If you are shutting down all the time and going cold this will present a challenge on your chemical treatment that can be difficult to solve. All Steam Boilers require chemical treatment and daily blowdown. If you have never run steam before its a real good idea to take at least one class, and do some serious reading about what not to do with steam boilers. They can become very dangerous in the wrong hands very quickly. A duplex return station with isolation capability gives you redundancy and is 100x better than a single pump system because of this one simple fact. A major lot os steam loaded equipment is designed with the condensate outlets too low. Ideally you need to port condensate into the return station in the top of the vessel. I have brought this fact one one MFG's attention and he is making corrections. Fully modulating fire control is best. This is an example of a return station set up pretty well out of the box: https://fabtekaero.com/condensate-units/
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    I don’t see where any of the above statements not pertinent to the CBMTRA and its passage. The mention of the USMCA is just another reference of pending legislation that is being held up also. What I do know about is that our current government atmosphere is totally dysfunctional (all sides) and self serving. We all need to keep the pressure up by continuously contacting your congressional and senatorial representatives requesting that the CBMTRA be made permanent. And BTW one of the leave behinds that we had at the ASCA/DISCUS DC fly-in this July also requested support for USMCA and its passage. A rising tide floats all boats as long as they are well maintained.
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    She is not letting any bills get to the House floor. USMCA is other example of something that has significant bipartisan support but she will not let it go to the floor for a vote. She is a first rate politician.
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    It does not look good. We can generally thank one politician elected by a single district in a single state that has held her position for 34 years.
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    In person yes, but only the huge ones at Jameson in Midleton Ireland. I'm intrigued by your current offerings and vacuum setups, impressive.
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    We run a 3 micron bag filter then a 1 micron 20" code 7 depth cartridge filter for aged product. When we dump a barrel, we dump it through a stainless gin basket (well, used to be a gin basket) to catch all of the big chunks.
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    " Wired line to neutral for 3 phase for each heating element, the current draw is 11.8A . " Three phase power at 208V for heating elements does not involve " NEUTRAL CONDUCTORS." If you have Neutral landed on your elements this is wrong. If you have actual 3 phase elements you land the 3 line conductors. Most systems use single phase elements which require single phase 208 which is 2 line conductors from alternate phases. Your 3 phase power is distributed among your elemnts in a balanced fashion in this manner with contactors and so forth. If you have 1 208V phase and one neutral landed on 208V elements, you have 120V applied voltage. If this was wired up by an electrician, you need to find another one soon. The only place you might need neutral is if your control circuit is 120V and is not supplied by an on board transformer. Otherwise there is no need to bring neutral into the cabinet or land it anywhere. The EGC is a seperate matter and you do need that.
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    Advocate for it, or it may well get reset back to the old rates.
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    Georgeous - The American whiskey industry uses the term "beer gallons" to describe mash thickness for grain-in fermentation and distillation of things like corn, rye, wheat and malt. The reason for this, is most equipment and process can handle one level of mash thickness, and scaling up or down or comparing yields from plant to plant or recipe to recipe is much easier done this way. A beer gallon is the total volume of liquid per bushel. Big distilleries typically run a 28 to 35 gallon beer. We run a 30 gallon beer, and hit a starting gravity around 1.065. So, for 500 gallons of finished mash, we start with 16 and 2/3rds bushels. This is important as bushels are a measure of volume, not weight, and we are working in volumes here. So this means my mash with 61 lb/bushel corn has more pounds of corn than if I used 56 lb/bushel corn, yet it has the same thickness so I know my pumps, agitators, exchangers and hoses can handle it. We start with about 380 gallons of 90 degree F water, and use live steam inject to add about another 55 or 60 gallons worth of water getting it to high temp. With the grain we hit 500 gallons +/- 5 or 10 every time. So for your 600 gallon recipe, as a 30 gallon beer, would be 20 bushels. (20*75%) 15 bushels of corn times its test weight (56 is average, but you should test your grain) = 840 lbs (20*21%) 4.2 bushels of rye (54 is average, again should test) = 227 lbs (20*4%) .8 bushels of malt (38 is average) = 30.4 lbs of malt Use about 528 gallons of water (less the appropriate amount of steam if using steam sparge) These weights are for field grains, not flaked. I'd also recommend starting with a 30 gallon beer and see how your equipment runs it, and thicken/thin it out based off experience. We test all of our grains upon receiving, and update our mashbill in pounds to match the new test weight.
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    Adam, this post has been a lifesaver!! We have the Mori-Tem, whatever, knockoff - and I didn't know you could adjust the depth of the filler tip by rotating the purple thing! This little tip now makes our life infinitely easier!!
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    Our NYS Farm Distillery facility has excess production capacity and we would be more than willing to help another distillery or a future distillery produce spirits at a reasonable cost. We have an 800 gallon mash tun and a 300 gallon column whiskey still and can produce somewhere around 100 to 120 proof gallons of spirits per batch. One or two batches can really kick start your production process. We can also age the spirits on site. Your also welcome to participate and oversee the distilling process or leave the whole process up to us. Please contact us for more information.
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    The fact that this process seems to change over time is part of what I researched. It is because of various possible reasons. For example, the initial flocculant may actually not be the lowest energy state, just how the product initially came out of solution, which is a kinetic process, not necessarily equilibrium. Since shaking can put it back into solution, it may not go back in the same way as was prior to flocculation, which means if it precipitates again, it may not have the same kinetic pathway, and may form a different type of cluster. Moreover, because oligosaccharides are made up of chains of sugars, they have the similar instability in solution that sugars do, in that they can undergo isomerization reactions and hydrogen-bonding rearrangements that change their isomeric and configurational structure, and then they will flocculate back out of solution in a different form. For those that are not aware, as an example, there are multiple structures of as simple a sugar as D-glucose, and in solution, the two most stable cyclic forms will interconvert continuously, through a linear open form. At equilibrium, there will be about a 1:2 ratio of the two cyclic isomers, with only a percent of the linear intermediary at any moment. Now, imagine that kind of reactivity can also exist in polymers of saccharides, and then if they are in close proximity to each other, reactions might occur that change their structure before they are redissolved by agitation. Subsequently, since they are now different molecules, the may form a different, and likely more stable, precipitate. Finally, the polymer chain itself may break and reform. The reactions can even be enhanced by the bonding energies between the flocculated polymers, and other reactions inhibited by the steric hinderance due to the clustering. All this to say, it is not surprising that the process of redissolving and precipitating again is not fully reversible for this class of compounds.
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    Thanks for the input. Here's the final product. So far it's going over very well.
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    Why do you think the speaker is holding up this legislation? That is not my understanding. It is true she is not a cosponsor, but that is not unusual for the speaker to not cosponsor a bill they might even be in support of. There are 320 sponsors of this bill, there is little doubt that it would pass. Same situation is true of the Senate bill, Mitch is not a cosponsor. But we DO know that he intends to pass no bills at this time. My suspicion is that BOTH bills are tied up in committee waiting to determine if they will be rolled into a single budget bill, and passed as a whole. So, it may die if we can't get a budget bill passed before the end of the calendar year. I suspect the House would be willing to pass it separately if it looks like we will need a CR beyond the end of December. The real problem might be in the Senate.
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    Are you asking for advise on lautering a mash of 51%+ corn ? If so, there are a lot of threads on here about that, and the general consensus seem to be : No.
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    Evening All A partner and I are writing a business plan to start a production distillery in Western Canada for export purposes. While we absolutely adore and respect the craft of artisanal distilling and have pet projects we'd like to work on later we are approaching this as a business that sells alcohol. We have proven track records in operations, business development and marketing in the brewing industry so hopefully that counts for something. I've read (over and over) the warnings of starting up a distillery on ADI and have taken those generous offerings of sage advice to heart so thank you to the members for sharing those words of wisdom.The information and support provided by members in this community is very much appreciated. We have made no formal investment decision as we are part way through the research process but we expect to have clarity once our business plan is complete and has been reviewed. StrangeBrew (SB)
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    Here are some Canadian distillery numbers according to statscan - 42% of distilleries operating in Canada today are profitable. So 57% aren't or aren't yet. 70% of the cash flows to the largest commercial distilleries and everyone else lives on the scraps. An overall margin of 48% is the average.
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    I did hear ( not sure how reliable) that some of the bigger guys use ultrasonic to break up the flock and apparently I'd does not re-form. I have noticed that vigorous shaking makes it disappear but it eventually re-appears but not as obvious.
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    It sounds great. But - let me pose a question. If indeed you do have extensive international connections and you can build markets in these places - why bother spending two million bucks building a distillery, which will gobble up loads of monthly overhead? Instead, here in BC we are awash in craft booze. Much of it is probably not the world's greatest, however there are enough who have produced seriously competitive beverages, yet the vast majority of them probably know nothing about how to shift them outside of BC. You'd make way more money, way faster brokering existing booze with way less risk, debt, labour and their associated headaches!
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    et1883 will do for sure. Mom's in Nanaimo as that's where I grew up (along with Powell River) so I should be around at least once by next summer. 3rd generation to Alberta but grew up from 4 + in BC. Friends and family in both provinces.
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    Hi Tim Thank you kindly for reaching out. We would likely set up in Edmonton and be an actual distillery working with grain. There is one product where we would consider using GNS and are discussing the pros and cons of that with a consultant now. My comments on the business side of things were based on our export strategy as my partner and I have 25 years combined experience working overseas in Asian with business connections there. We would also be interested in working with AB/SK farmers in the future to produce single malt/single farm whiskey but we haven't yet researched that. We are also interested in working with landrace heirloom grains but haven't had time to look in to that either. Lots of good stuff to learn which is making the journey thus far satisfying. SB
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    All i went with the professional grade housing after talking to Michael of TCW. i got the 30" but am using my 10" filters i used on enolmaster on it. it works better than that italian piece of $h!t Call michael i never met anyone that know so much about filtration, trust me all my filtering needs he is on speed dial thanks Michael and TCW
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    This thread began with a subject line "TTB stopped our production due to high proof." It dates 2016, so I’m going back a ways to discuss the issue of being told to stop. I think the issue of gauging has been covered by many of the persons who have commented. I’ll only add that TTB has a proposal, the new section 5.65(c), that will provide an over proof tolerance as well as the existing under proof tolerance. The final rule is due out in March. Now, I’ll turn to what I really want to talk about. I quote the opening to this thread in full. “Ok, so curious if any other small facilities have had this issue. QUICK BACKGROUND: We filed for a new permit since we wanted change owners, father to son(we've had this small distillery for 20 years). As ttb came out to do there investigation they took 2 bottles to sample. We were told both bottles were at 81 proof not 80. Although we sent samples to another TTB certified lab and they gave us a reading of 80.23. Our inventory was only about 15 cases. Again we're a small distillery and we only bottle 6 to 12 cases at a time. Basically bottle when we need to. So end result the TTB investigator told us to stop all operations until the new permit is complete which will take another 2 months at least because we were over proof and that didn't match our labels of 80 proof. We have one major account we can't afford to lose Again, that statement dates to 2016, so I’m more than a bit late in commenting, but the atmospherics of TTB’s recent public statements and behaviors tells me that what I have to say is relevant today. I will accept that this happened, but I can't imagine that the agency would have backed up the employee out of whose mouth it spewed. Or can I? No agent has the authority to tell you to stop operations. Period. They can advise you that what you are doing is in violation of the law and that any further violations - which they would then have to prove - may be considered willful, but no agent may demand, on their authority, that you stop. I will underline the word "no." No government agent - go as high in the hierarchy as you might like - has that authority to do so on their own say. If any government agent asserts that they have that authority, ask them in a polite way, to cite the source form which the authority flows. I'm not an attorney, so consult one if this ever happens to you, but my advice is that you ask the agent to please put the cease and desist order in writing so that you can show it to your attorney. If the agent has a lick of sense, that will put an end to the demand. Next, I never thought I would need to say this, but if such an officious (I've got to watch my choice of nouns here) personage happens to darken the halls of your DSP, politely tell the agent that you certainly want to comply with any lawful order, but that you want to talk to your attorney before making any further statements. Look to John Hinman's advice at https://www.beveragelaw.com/booze-rules/investigator-5fnb4564-2754l85-7g42123fd-zfg9e-pxewb-9fajj. He was addressing talking with TTB agents who are asking about trade practices, but when things get serious, like an instruction to shut down, I'd apply the same rules. Now, I'm not arguing that you thumb your nose at a demand that you stop, because a permit may have terminated by operation of law as a result of circumstances other than the allegation that the two bottles of spirits that TTB tested were over proof. If there is a change in proprietors, which may have been the case in the situation described, the old proprietors permit terminates at the time of the change. Unreported changes in actual or legal control can also result in the termination of a permit. If the permit has terminated - which is a finding that is subject to review through an established process in which TTB is given great deference - the provisions of law that apply to moonshining kick in. So, I'm not advocating a "screw you" TTB approach. But, if the permit has not terminated by operation of law, TTB may not tell you to stop operations until they go through the formal hoops necessary to suspend or revoke the permit. Again, suspension and revocation require formal action. The provisions of the Administrative Procedure Act and part 71 of TTB's own regulations apply. They apply because congress sought to restrict employees and agencies from acting in arbitrary ways and throwing imagined weight around. " Formal action” - underline that too - formal action requires a formal order issued to you to show cause why your permit should not be suspended, revoked or annulled; an opportunity for hearing before an administrative law judge; the right to appeal the administrative law judge's decision to the Administrator of TTB, and the right to appeal the administrator's decision to federal court. Usually it also involves an opportunity for an informal conference seeking to resolve the matter before going down the hearing rabbit hole in a waste of time and money. In any case, that is one hell of a long way from some agent having authority to say "Cease and desist" all operations because our lab says you had two bottles over proof. Next, the lab results on the two bottles over proof are evidence only that the two bottles the agent took and submitted were over proof. No inference to more violations can be drawn. TTB would have to look at the records for the bottling of those two bottles to say anything more. If the record did not support the conclusion that more than two bottles were over proof, then TTB has no evidence that anything more than two bottles were over proof. The two bottle cap also applies to collecting excise taxes on the spirits on which you did not pay tax. They can assess for two bottles, nothing more. If you don't have the required gauge record, the required bottling tank record, and the required proof and fill check records, TTB can cite you with recordkeeping violations, which are grounds for possible action, but they still don't have any proof of more than two bottles being over proof. TTB has routinely ignored such findings in the past. If you doubt my word on that , look at TTB's failure to act on its market basket sampling program, where it repeatedly found over proof bottles and did nothing. Further, they may not - the difference between "may" and "can" sometimes becomes important because they can say whatever words spew out of their mouth, but - they may not tell you to cease operations because of recordkeeping violations unless (1) they first allege that you willfully violated the law and (2) that finding then is sustained throughout the formal, hearing, appeal process which is your due. TTB may not simply rip a permit off the wall, put it in their pocket, and walk away, until such time as they finally get around to taking formal action, whenever that may be. That is the effect of an oral demand of the sort you received. And that is why you have the protection of the Administrative Procedure Act. Many years ago, I was instructed by ATF’s senior management to tell a person, who was operating as a wine wholesaler without having applied for a permit, that he was “violating the law and that any further violations would be considered willful.” Now, he had paid federal occupational taxes, which are no longer collected, and had a state license, but he didn’t know he needed a permit. I told him I wanted to see him with his attorney. I then delivered the message as instructed. He asked, “Are you telling me I must stop.” I said, truthfully, “I do not have the authority to do that.” His attorney said, “He is telling you to stop.” I told the attorney, “That may be, but before you advise your client to stop, you call the manager who told me to deliver the message and have him tell you to tell your client to stop.” After I left, he made the call, and I heard not one word more. This I know; the miscreant continued to sell high end French wines to restaurants who had put it on their wine list only after a promise that he could deliver a continuing supply; the permit was nevertheless approved; and I heard no more about telling people that future violations would be considered willful." But those were saner times.
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    The million dollar question! This is always a tough one because there are so many variables as others have mentioned and there's really no one size fits all. My best advice is to really sit down and plan out your marketing objectives and associated activities to reach those objectives. Just like you would with any other business goals. That's the only way to get an even remotely realistic number. We have two free resources related to this kind of work (scroll about half-way down the page for access) from our Craft Alcohol Marketing Bootcamp bonus content that can help you think through this. You won't have the background course content for the full context and guidance without taking the courses, but the downloads have clear instructions to help you make some headway on your own if you have at least some understanding of marketing. One is a Marketing Budget Planning Exercise (with instructions for how to do it at a conceptual level if you're not quite at the stage to put hard numbers down just yet) and the other is a Paid Marketing Tactics Overview and Campaign Planner. There are some general guidelines out there that for businesses 5 years or younger you should plan to spend 12-20% of your revenue (goals) on marketing and for businesses over 5 years old (assuming your hitting your revenue goals and are on track), plan to spend 5-15% of revenue. But I'm still a strong proponent of sitting down and doing the work for your business objectives vs. just using some random rule of thumb...especially since those are still pretty broad ranges. One other tip. I always encourage craft makers to create their ideal marketing budget first - the one that would help you hit your goals the most effectively and on time - and then layer on reality after that to rightsize it. Starting from a scarcity mindset doesn't allow you to see the opportunities and growth potential you may be missing by not finding creative ways to invest more heavily where it makes sense. I'm not saying go crazy with a dream marketing budget...but do the "really, really, what would it take to hit these goals in the timeline I've lain out" budget. Then figure out how to fit it back into your reality, make tradeoffs with other resource investment areas where it makes sense, and then go back and adjust your goals/timeline with your newfound understanding of how underfunded your marketing will have to be, if that's the case. Hope some of this is helpful! This is just some of that foundational work that takes some real dedicated time and brain power to do right, but it will pay off for years to come and minimize marketing waste if you do it early and revisit it often. Suzanne
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    As a former business consultant I think you’ve accurately framed the marketing question and in doing so, given yourself the answer! Lol I really don’t think there is a fixed number answer. On the low end, some guerrilla marketing can be cheap and super effective (like glenlyons sandwich boards) On the high end mass media can be super expensive and moderately effective. By way of “answering” the question, I strongly feel that craft booze is 80% marketing, story and presentation. With this in mind spending more money on marketing and less on product development should generate sales. A wise old business guy guy once told me “once your company has a successful product, all you really need to do is stay relevant by releasing one new product a year.” thats my tack on our operation. Maybe some of that is useful for yours.
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    I suppose if you have a million variables, the answer is always going to be the helpful - 'It depends...' Rather than looking at the per case marketing cost, rather look at the cost per customer. So, how many customers can you expect and how much did it cost you to get them to buy your product? If you've already been operating for three years, you'll know you kinda top out on your revenues, so your growth desire is more tied to your ability to get out there and bring in the business than it is a fictional percentage point. Its likely what you've done abroad is what you'll do at home. Other factors might be location, if you are on main street the cost of the customers might be low but the cost of rent and taxes might be high, etc., etc. The best marketing money I ever spent was on my street sandwich boards. Those things haul in customers all the time and the customers tell us so. Radio is loads of fun, but you need to invest in at least two years of slogging to get any traction. Newspapers are useless. Editorial is king. Get stories written about you in newspapers and magazine and you will see results. I'm lukewarm on social media.
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    SHL I hold you in the highest regard as an expert on this forum. I am here to contribute on Tech matters that I am well versed in only. My background is HVACR with Masters License in the State of Texas 1992. I have 30 years in and ran one of the shops for the Texas A&M system for about 7 years until I went to try a different sector. Before that I was a Heavy Commercial Service Tech in Dallas. I would agree single phase elements are the way to go. SCR control is nice when possible. Your product sounds first rate. Just for the record for the laypersons who do not have a lot of time in on electrical. The neutral conductor only comes into play in our world when dealing with 120v or 277V circuits. When working daily with and studying electrical systems, it is one of the most difficult conductors to properly understand. Especially with respect to it being a " grounded " conductor. I can recommend " Mike Holts " Electric Forum for anyone who is wanting to gain a greater degree of understanding. There are some sharp guys on that forum. We do not have a perfect setup here and were thrown into it with short information on a major fast track. I designed and built all the control panels for this Steam Fired Distillery under the gun. We are definitely still learning, but having had years of Brewery Experience to supplement with which crosses over fairly good on some fronts. ADI is a great resource. Sincerely
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    I'll add something to what HedgeBird says. What TTB requires depends on how you make the purchase. The rules for changes in proprietorship and changes in control, which control what you must do, are in §1.42-1.44. For example, assume that you buy, as a new LLC,, the assets of an existing entity that is conducting business as a DSP. Your LLC takes over the business. The old LLC is out the door. TTB will call this a change of proprietorship. Your LLC needs to make original application. The assets that you buy do not include the permit, because any sale, lease, or other transfer of a permit from one entity to another results in automatic termination, under law and without any need for further action by TTB, of the permit at the time of the sale, lease, or transfer. Sale, lease or transfer by or from one entity to another = Poof., The permit vanishes and the registration is no longer in effect... Those rules result in a simple proposition. The succeeding entity must start over, period. It cannot operate on the sellers permit. So your application goes into the new application pile along with all the other applications. Time saved until you can operate = 0. Lesson - if you go this route, apply well in advance of the sale or make the sale effective on TTB's approval. However, if you you buy the entity from its owners (which means you acquire both the assets and the liabilities, so talk to your attorney), say you purchase all the membership interest in an LLC from the members, then you must immediately give TTB notice of a change. If, within 30 days of the change, you file an amended application showing the change in control, you can continue operating on the approved permit until TTB approves the application for a change in control. The permit remains issued to the same entity with different principals on record with TTB. That is a seamless transition, but it comes at the cost of acquiring those perhaps bothersome liabilities. Now let's talk about moves. HedgeBird is right about changes of location. If you buy out the members' interest, and continue to operate as the same entity, you can't pick up and move the permit without first obtaining TTB's approval. The issue is not whether the move is to a different state. Yes,s if you move to a different state, you will need to file an original application, as HedgeBird says. I do not find this requirement in the regulations (§§ 1.41 and 19.118). It appears in the FAQ's and appears to be policy. But TTB gets to make the rules. Still, by provision of those sections of regulation, any move, even on from one room to another within the same building, requires that you apply to amend the registration and permit. I've not observed that TTB approves moves within a state any faster than it does new applications, but it could be they do. The sample size is so small, and the other variables carry so much weight, that I think one would be hard pressed to reach any conclusions about how long things will take either way. For planning purposes, I'd allow more time than TTB's average time to approval in either case (remember that an average says some take longer and some take less) and I'd be less concerned with how long one way takes when compared to the other than to how one way fits the business plan better or worse than the other.
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    If the elements are 7kW and they are 208 3 phase elements, they should draw 19.44 Amps each, under a full load. The elements should be stamped with the phase and voltage on the terminal end. .
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    Here is the video Edwin shot of the 6 head line he built for us. Love it! You will see he uses a CCR corker running with his controls and we put it on a 5 ft conveyor.
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    Check this out: https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2018/08/28/judge-dismisses-suit-over-alcohol-shipments-mississippi/1120385002/ It sets an interesting precident. The premise is that the seller is acting as an agent for the purchaser and shipping on behalf of the purchaser. It appears that the state will appeal. Hopefully th state will lose again. I beleive that you should be able to sell spirits on line and ship from any state to any state.
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    I just want to throw it out there that my limited experience with FONL and COLAS online has shown me that people here on this site often know more about the TTB manuals then the specialists we are assigned to. So it's possible there might not be anything wrong with your formula or label application. I just went through 2 months of hell trying to get a formula and label approved. Only approved after finally being assigned to a second specialist who correctly read their own manual. Just saying.
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    for posterity....figured it out, for anyone who finds this in frustration.... -hold the lower pink rubber, twist the upper pink rubber for adjustment. -counterclockwise allows for more fill....as you twist the top pink while holding the lower pink the nipple will get longer, so it dips deeper and your fill will stop earlier. -you only need to adjust shelf level if it wont push the nozzle up enough to get proper flow. Adam
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    Some states have set it up so that the re-sellers pay more. North Carolina is a good example...control state, everything goes through the state package store. Bars and restaurants pay a HIGHER price for spirits, per bottle, than the consumer. I understand the idea of putting the tax burden on those who profit the most, but it drives the cost of a cocktail into the $8-15 range for a premium drink, and consumers tend to drink at home. OTOH, some states stipulate that EVERYONE pays the same price, and even regulate pricing and constitution of mixed drinks! Because the craft beer industry has been so effective at lobbying for themselves over the past decade, we've ended up with a double-standard (and sometimes a triple-standard in wine-protection country) with regards to how pricing and distribution is regulated. The system, overall, favors larger, multi-state distributors who can afford local representation. If we, as crafty distillers, want to level the playing field (do we?) then it's going to take some dollars to re-define things. And a lot of organizing and lobbying. Personally, I think that pricing should be level across the board to consumers and re-sellers (since they are paying for whatever attracts people, other than booze, and staffing, and...) but I'd like the flexibility to adjust my prices demographically...instead of pan-state. I'd also be happy to see more adjusting based on demand in control states, so that the market drives the price, rather than the opposite
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