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  1. I run a recirculated cooling system with 2 300 gal totes feeding a 125 gal still. It works fine if you only want to run every 3rd day. I have considered adding a radiator on the return line to help dump heat prior to going back into the totes. So far that has not been needed to meet demand. It does not keep a constant water temp, but I run a VM style still head so it's not all that critical. If running a CM, I think a radiator and then probably a small chiller would work better. Radiator to dump the majority of the heat and the chiller to keep a constant temp in the reservoir.
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    carbon monoxide

    FYI the fire department can come out and check with their meter. I think hvac techs also have co meters. Had to have it done at home when a co alarm was going off. Turned out it was bad and was a false alarm.
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    Grounded Fermenters?

    Did not have to ground out fermenters as they only hold "beer" which the fd essentially considers water. All tanks/containers for spirits needed grounding and bonding.
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    I have been told that to get the bold flavor you have to have pina in the wash. The master distiller I talked to said you would not get good flavor from syrup alone.
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    Amendment to drop DSP Bond Time Line

    I was quicker than that. Maybe a month. But that was when the law first went into effect.
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    Best beers for making products

    Not sure who you are asking, but yes we did. Sold it as whiskey as it was all malted barley, hence the no hopps. We had the brewer make the wort and then we transferred it prior to fermentation. Fermented in house, then distilled and barrel it. The finished product had notes from the Porter, but was definitely a whiskey. It was fun to watch reactions as people tried it. The different flavors hit at different times.
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    Best beers for making products

    We recently did an unhopped Porter. Came out quite interesting. Sold well. Technically it was a malt whiskey.
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    Using CB insurance in cos.
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    What states let Distllerys self Distribute?

    Colorado allows self distribution as well.
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    Whiskey Hypothetical

    I don't think you can do it all in one batch as that would be changing types which would require a formula. You could do it with one mash bill and different runs, i.e. This one is corn whiskey, this one is bourbon. A local distiller does that. Same mash bill for two different products. If you define it up front as a type and don't change it, no formula is required.
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    Whiskey Hypothetical

    Corn whiskey is unique in that it is the only whiskey not required to be aged. If it is aged it has to be in uncharred barrels, so if it's corn whiskey, toasted barrels, bourbon, new charred barrel. Clear as mud?
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    Lessons in Barrel Aging

    I would also try some Gibbs barrels if you want a little slower extraction.
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    GNS Cost and Availability

    Do whatever you want, but be honest with the customer. I can't stand "distillers" who do everything they can to obscure who or where the product is actually made. If you redistill GNS and sell it as vodka, say that's what you do. Say why it makes a better vodka than simply bottling GNS. If you just bottle GNS, say that's what you do, don't call it hand crafted when you buy a tanker truck at a time. Don't have a huge still that isn't hooked up and say you make awesome vodka. You don't make anything, you are simply a bottling plant. One distiller who makes a good gin said this on using GNS, do you expect a painter to stretch his own canvas to paint on? The GNS is simply the canvas to which I paint using botanicals. I think he has a valid point, but if I make a gin it will be from my own base spirit because that what I want to do
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    GNS Cost and Availability

    For gin I agree, use GNS if you want. we toured beefeater in London and they don't make the base spirit. They bring in GNS although they have big plate stills to clean up the spirit of needed. It also seems that in England most gin distillers have a rectifiers license and can only redistill vs a manufacturer license to make spirits. Very different than the us.
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    Adjusting Proof for Temperature

    Actually hoochware uses the ttb tables to do the conversion. It can be downloaded as an app for the conversion part or used within the tracking software.
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    Record keeping software help

    I think all the software works similarly. Enter all your actions and it does the reports. That isn't hard, it just takes discipline to keep up.
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    Record keeping software help

    Hoochware is the least expensive option. I have been on it for a couple of years and it does the job, plus it's getting better all the time. Really makes record keeping easy.
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    Lessons in Barrel Aging

    Also look at different suppliers. For us we found some barrels offer quicker extraction than others. Depending on how you do cuts and how long you want to age this can be good or bad. Second use is also much slower for extraction. Gibbs brothers seem to be slower on the extraction and may be better suited than barrel mill barrels if you need more time for maturation.
  19. I am sure someone will come along with the actual spec, but I believe you have to have a physical separation between the two. So you would need some sort of wall and door to make them separate spaces. With that said I have been in facilities that have no separation.
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    Filtering Through Limestone

    Am I wrong that RO removes the minerals and if they are present is RO treated water they are added after RO? That's why it's useful for brewing and distilling. You can remove everything and then build the water you want.
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    T Top (Bartop) issue

    I have heard of people having an issue and fixing it with a shrink sleeve. We do a top strip and shrink sleeve, no issues. I did heat some bottles one time for hot apple pie and the corks eventually popped out, but it took a lot of heat. They shot out, not eased out. We use Paulson T tops.
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    Is owning a separate bar prohibited?

    Colorado, not allowed. You can only own one tier of the three tier. Some licenses have privileges of other tiers, i.e. A manufacturer can sell direct or through distribution, but you can't have ownership in a distributor or retailer.
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    WTB one 10-30 gallon used barrel

    I have a couple once used 15's. One had a coffee and chocolate Porter, the other a corn whiskey.
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    Simple, Cheap Temperature Probe and Readout

    I have used small panel mount remote thermometers I bought from Cole pharmer. Run about $20. Not perfect as you need access to the back of them as they are battery powered and the switches are on the back. But cheap and accurate.
  25. For my vodka I strip in the 120 (~100gal) and then a spirit in a 35 gallon. i figure about 3:1 for a strip/finish. I only do that because of height limits in my space. I would need a split column to run vodka on the 120 gallon still. Works ok. Also think about selling in distribution. As posted elsewhere retailers want 30 points and so do wholesalers. That means you might only get $10-$12 per bottle I would start with income needed and size backwards. You should have enough information to get close. Also start thinking of barrel costs and time required to make product to fill them since that is next years sales.