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  1. bluestar

    Question re: 27 CFR 19.489 (case labeling)

    We include something like this, for example: 12 x 375ML Bottles • 44% Alc. by Vol. • 88 Proof 4.5 Liters Total Volume • 1.05 Proof Gallons
  2. For the control box: Looks like 6 switched SSRs, instead of 5? And there are a couple more SSRs, are those for the motor control, or something else? Looks like each of the heating elements is set up for single phase 120?
  3. In the end, it will be up to who at the TTB reviews your application. But the general answer is no. You can pass through space you control that is not bonded premise to get to bonded premise. But you can't do the reverse, or at least that can't be the official entrance to that space. For example, I know a distillery that had to add a bathroom to a tasting room because the existing bathroom was in the bonded premise, and that could not be treated as publicly accessible, as required by code. And you might have fire code issues with egress, as well, having to go from a public assembly or mercantile area through a hazardous or industrial space for exit. Without seeing layout, it is hard to speculate. But what you will likely need to do is create an entrance lobby that is not bonded premise on the first floor that both exits outside and is the location of the base of the flight of stairs. And while there have been some distilleries that have had less than floor-to-ceiling wall separations of bonded premise from other space, the rule essentially says you can't do that. Best might be to give the drawings to a TTB field officer to review for you.
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    I do consulting also, with a sliding hourly rate, depending on size of facility. But I also consult as a scientist in other high-tech areas, and my rates for that are double or more. I try to be liberal with my knowledge on the forums, but often people's questions require the dedicated time and attention that they will need from a consultant. There are many good ones that post or lurk in the forums here.
  5. Other non-named whiskey types can also be aged at higher proof, like light whiskey.
  6. bluestar

    Macerating and distilling with Plates

    We find that if we are going to put all of the botanicals in the pot, that yes, running 4 plates and dephleg would remove much of the botanical flavor. So, if we are running a redistilled gin with fairly clean base spirit, we will run without plates. But we do a distilled gin off of beer with 4 plates and dephleg, and while we put some juniper in the pot with the beer, we place the rest of the botanicals in a makeshift gin basket above the plates below the dephleg, and that turns out to be very efficient in extracting flavors and aromas from the botanicals. Keep in mind, any change of where and when you introduce the botanicals will change the flavor profile, and not in a uniform way, since different botanicals extract differently. So, you must test and determine what works, adjusting botanical bill as you see fit.
  7. bluestar

    Resting Gin what Proof

    We do that, works for us.
  8. For the most part, I agree with everything @dhdunbar just said, but would add: TTB ultimately will disallow anything that they consider might be fraudulent. So while "single malt" is not defined in the CFR, since it has a typical meaning in the industry based on Scotch requirements, they would likely not approve to use the term if not meant in the same way. That being said, they won't know you used it improperly unless either your label description or a formula indicates you don't meet the Scotch requirements, or you get audited. So the label would likely be approved for the term "single malt" unless contradicted elsewhere. All that with the caveat that as @dhdunbar said, many labels get approved by TTB erroneously, but that does not establish any precedent as far as the TTB is concerned. Just think about how many labels for a while were approved for whiskey with "aged less than" on the label, even though expressly prohibited by the CFR. It was so bad, the TTB had to issue a circular reminding everyone it was not allowed, even though obviously they helped to promulgate the mistakes.
  9. bluestar

    T Top (Bartop) issue

    Make sure you are using a spirit bottle design and not a wine bottle design. Wine bottles don't have enough head room for spirits. Make sure you bottle at RT or higher, avoid bottling at refrigerated temperatures. If the bottles are going to be exposed to heat or sun, you definitely need to further secure the bartop with an adhesive seal strip, shrink wrap, or both.
  10. I would avoid small bourbon barrels, wrong flavor. Rye barrels are better. If you are doing Norwegian style, it would be a used sherry cask.
  11. bluestar

    Equipment for Sale

    Important clarification, thanks. Not unusual for a gas-fired system to be set up to use different voltages for secondary systems, like switches, blowers, pumps, etc. Often, to do that, the main connection is sized for the higher current when operating at lower input main voltage.
  12. bluestar

    Distillery Controls

    Some of the more sophisticate PIDs have complex "approach" algorithms that can compensate for lag in systems. These avoid overshoot and ringing, but they are sensitive to any change in the operating conditions of the unit. And they require some expertise to learn how to program, even though the better ones can be run in "autotune" to determine the programming parameters. Examples of that level of sophistication are Omega and Watlow (although there are many others). We use the latter. Typically, these run new about $200 list.
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    Issues with a small equipment supplier

    If you are going to purchase yourself, make sure you get SS and that the gasket and/or feedthrough materials are resistant to high temperature alcohol. Otherwise, they can corrode or leak quickly.
  14. bluestar

    Grain in mash pump

    That's why we have both, and would recommend others do the same.
  15. Not likely. We only have a 50 gallon still. We pay about $2k/mo for utilities! Unless your electric, water, and sewer are nearly free? Your insurance rate is probably at about the correct minimum, but that means instead of $6K/yr, you might budget $15K/yr or more for the two combined to start. Keep in mind, the minimum might be a fixed cost, but that will scale proportionally with increase in production.