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  1. You can see here what we are dealing with. Note the messy floor around all that stuff.
  2. Note that you will need a yeast harvesting and propagation system in place to make this economically feasible. You should get 8-15 generations from the initial pitch. A 3BBL dose is about $180.
  3. I think the issue is getting them and the pipe runs off the floor so it can be cleaned easily. Seems to me that the best design would be the condensate falls to a still-integrated tank that is under the pot and integrated with a pump and a float switch. Maybe just bolt a stainless steel version of that low profile Hoffman unit (need XP) to the underside of the still. Then it can be wired along with the agitator. I think the problem with this is that it then gets the still manufacture into a new subject matter that they might not want to be in. However, if you think about it... it is really just drawing a new line in system domain ownership along the process continuum. Steam goes into the pot still jacket and there is a low-point drain for the condensate to exit. Today the steam boiler equipment people come it to provide solutions connecting the steam equipment to the still equipment condensate drain. The shift would be that the steam boiler equipment people connect to a condensate pump outlet that is integrated into the still equipment and that is situated at least 16" above the ground. Said another way, the steam boiler people generally don't own much in aesthetic consideration nor care much about how one might clean around their proud mess of black pipe. The still manufacture people do care about these things. I don't have a problem with the steam boiler people working on the steam boiler, but I would like to limit their work around the stills.
  4. Can someone explain how this works? If a competition needs a couple of bottles, shouldn't they also have a license to receive bottles direct from the maker? I am getting mixed information that the competition host needs to purchase as a retailer and thus we would be unable to ship as per the 3-tier rules. Also getting some mixed information that it depends on the state where the maker is located and the address where the bottles need to be shipped.
  5. RO uses a lot of water... so you are somewhat defeating the purpose of condensate return to help prevent water waste. But in my neck of the woods I would not DSI the tap water. Correct me if I am wrong here, but DSI requires high-pressure steam?
  6. This is one area I am definitely not happy about. My floor around my steam heated vessels is a mess of condensate return plumbing and the tank-pump. It makes cleaning in that area very problematic. And the black pipe holding the condensate produces some rust which then stains the floor. We have beautiful shiny stills and tanks, plumbing and electrical runs are symmetrical and straight... and then this mess of black pipe connections with the pump-tank on the floor that almost looks like a child designed it. I agree with you. Ideally all steam jacketed stills would have their own condensate tank and pump hanging off the bottom of the steam jacketed boiler tank and then the only connection would be a single pipe to the condensate return header.
  7. On more consideration depending on your process and your target product, but you might need filtering to eliminate turbidity from the botanical oils... possibly chill-filtering.
  8. Thank you Southern. That makes sense I think as long as there are no chemicals added to the boiler feed water.
  9. Starting from scratch here and hoping ya'll can save me some time locating good vendors that can print up some custom 6-bottle corrugated cartons for us.
  10. Blow down separators and water treatment are needed to prevent your boiler tank, tubes and other parts from needing replacement caused by calcium and other mineral build up. If you are blessed with soft water from the tap, and just filter it for sediment removal, you might make a case to go without. However, it also depends on the boiler as lacking these things you might void a warranty. Also, even with soft water from the tap and sediment filtering your boiler part life will be less than if you have chemically treated water and blow-down. You can do without a condensate return system, but that will increase your boiler water use, your water waste and your cost of boiler operation as you are not returning the heated water from the steam condensate back to the boiler feed tank. It is a fixed vs variable, short-term vs long-term cost-benefit decision. If you want to use the steam injection into a mash, you need a potable water steam boiler... expensive. Otherwise the water used in the boiler is absolutely not potable. This was taken during installation... a 5-week project. My 35 HP boiler was $60k including all parts and components and about the same for installation. C4 pipe fitter/welders in CA are billing at over $150 per hour. One thing I did not end up doing and I might do today is to consider using Pro-Press fittings instead of welded steel pipe. But Pro-Press only goes to 4" so if your steam header is greater than 4" it will require welding. The economics for this would depend on the length of your steam runs and the number of fittings. I could have done this work myself and probably saved $15k... but the other major problem with steam boiler installation is your local building official. Frankly they tend to be idiots about steam boilers... over-worried given the ASME certifications and all the fail-safe components... and unable to wrap their head around the difference between a low-pressure and high-pressure system. This was the most PITA part of my operation, but now I am benefiting from low cost of operation and high reliability in process.
  11. She is not letting any bills get to the House floor. USMCA is other example of something that has significant bipartisan support but she will not let it go to the floor for a vote. She is a first rate politician.
  12. It does not look good. We can generally thank one politician elected by a single district in a single state that has held her position for 34 years.
  13. My grain supplier says that they cannot reuse the 2000 lb super sacks. Eventually we will end up with a grain silo, but for now we are accumulating a lot of these used sacks. I hate to through them into the landfill, but I am not aware of any other use. I would just give them away to someone that can use them? Ideas?
  14. 51% corn, 49% barley malt might work. Never worked with flaked corn though. Assume that the cook does not need to be as hot, but then what is the state of the typical detritus seen from whole grain corn mash? You make the case for not wanting to use exogenous enzymes, but those might also help in better liquefying the start conversion so you can better rise it out of the grain bed.
  15. Not developing any greater satisfaction with the TTB COLA and FONL process. I believe they should just rename those systems to “inconsistently needs correction”.
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