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  1. Trevor

    Opinions on this 1868 Still Patent

    I was thinking something similar. His invention seems to be a doubler then a carbon filter then a botanical chamber. Still-->Doubler->Doubler->Charcoal-->Botanicals-->Plates or Perforated Disc-->Worm I Still II Doubler III Extra Vessel A vapor expansion to lose entrained foreign matter B space with perforated bottom or stacked dishes for charcoal or deodorizing C Conic Head/chamber D Water still d. is a faucet fill inlet funnel for D E F egg-shaped or double-conic head or vessel G Screw appendage to remove head to fill with botanicals? 1 2 vapor from still 3 vapor from doubler 4 return for redistill? 5 return for redistill? 6 pipe from top of chamber A to worm to draw off less refined vapor 7 pipe from top of B to worm? 8 pipe from water still to worm? 9 pipe from apex of conical chamber C to Worm with pet cock valve (primary vapor path) 10 conical head fill pipe IV Worm or Refridgerator (radiator)
  2. I stumbled across an interesting old patent for a still improvement. Can't quite figure is this thing out but I have reason to believe the inventor had a lot of distillery experience. The PDF has the description. Thoughts? JC.Cookson.1868.Still-Patent.US81605.pdf
  3. I looking for any pre 1900 books that describe how to set up and run a distillery. Especially how to choose a distillery location. Many pre 1900 distilleries near Virginia seem to have been located by mill runs, rivers, creeks, etc.
  4. No slab yet. I live in a heavily regulated county so I need to have everything on my building permit or they will kill be on submisison fees.
  5. The building will be a new construction 30x50 Steel building. Not even sure how to slope the floor yet but I'll extend the drain for sure. There is a good possability I will have a lot of storage on the slab. But it can;t be anything that needs refrigeration.
  6. Really good questions. I'm actually in a urban/suburban area even though I'll be classified as a Farm Distillery. I have a call into the power company to get an answer on what kind of power is available. I have city water available or I can us a well. The city water will cost me >$20k to tap into due to fees. $11K plus equipment for a water well. But the driller can't guarantee flow rate. So I'm on the fence a little. The other down side of city water is they use that consumption to determine your sewer bill as well. I'm on a tight budget so I have been trying to figure the best method/sources for heating and cooling. Ady advice or recommendations are welcome. I'm in Springfield, VA.
  7. Starting on a shoestring. I may install a mini split HVAC system. Unless another option is available.
  8. Really good questions. I'm actually in a urban/suburban area even though I'll be classified as a Farm Distillery. I have a call into the power company to get an answer on what kind of power is available. I have city water available or I can us a well. The city water will cost me >$20k to tap into due to fees. $11K plus equipment for a water well. But the driller can't guarantee flow rate. So I'm on the fence a little. The other down side of city water is they use that consumption to determine your sewer bill as well. I'm on a tight budget so I have been trying to figure the best method/sources for heating and cooling. Ady advice or recommendations are welcome. I'm in Springfield, VA.
  9. What are the minimum walls I need in the production areas? Just a mechanical room? And maybe a boiler room? What around a locked storage area? I'll pick up more fermenters as production increases.
  10. For a small distillery what kind of electrical would you suggest? 4-220V in strategic locations and 110 around the perimeter? Each still will need a 220V. Maybe I'll switch to a tank water heater. I had a on-demand before for a restaurant and it was pretty handy and saved a lot of space.
  11. Thanks. I'll pick up more once business picks up.
  12. Thanks Tom. I'll increase to 7x7 or so and make the two bathrooms the same. I'll talk to the county to see if I can collect graywater to handle the non-sewage drains. The building itself is 20 ft but there is a raised mezzanine due to the floodplain. On the second level the roof will have a 4/14 pitch so I should have 16ft or so clearance in the center. The two fermenters for now are beasue I'll have probably have one large still and one small one but that could change and I'll keep it in mind. What do you mean about electrical access? Should I put it over near the entrance? Others have mentioned removing walls so I'm thinking of just having one large storage closet but I'm not sure of the security requirements for the finished product area. I'll also look at adding another door to the production area. I'm considering leavign the interior door for production employees and the deck out back for customer access since I need ADA ramps anyhow..
  13. Trevor

    Sewer Limitations due to IPC/Regulations

    I'm starting to think I'll have to use most of my DFUs for the two ADA bathrooms and route the rest of the water to a greywater collection system.
  14. I would like some feedback on my proposed distillery floor-plan. I'm somewhat constrained on my building size and due to being partial in a floodplain. The building will be a 30ft by 50 ft steel building 20 ft high. The distillery operations will be on 2/3 of the area on a mezzanine about 7 ft up. The remainder of the upper area will be tasting/retail. The lower area will be for the forklift and possibly barrel/tote/supply storage. There will be a 15x30 deck at the rear. Please tell me what you think could be improved or what I may be missing.
  15. I've been working on my distillery floor-plan and I just discovered a serious constraint due to local regulations. Because I will be running a house and distillery accessory structure off a sewer lateral I will be limited to 10 "drainage fixture units". So pretty much limited to one accessory structure for any real work other than storage. I want to be able to have a distillery and tasting room. So, can I get away with one bathroom? What is the minimum for the rest in terms of faucets and drains? Any clever thoughts or examples? Maybe collect all the gray water and just drain black water? I would think a a minimum: (5dfu) Bathroom group consisting of water closet, lavatory, and shower, including or excluding a bidet, an emergency floor drain, or both. (1.6 gpf water closet) (2 dfu) floor drain/floor sink (2 dfu) double sink (1 DFU) two waterless urinals Type of Fixture or Group of Fixtures Based on the 2006 International Plumbing Code Fixture Units Automatic clothes washer, commercial 3 Automatic clothes washer, residential 2 Bathroom group consisting of water closet, lavatory, bathtub or shower, including or excluding a bidet, an emergency floor drain, or both. (1.6 gpf water closet) 5 Bathroom group consisting of water closet, lavatory, bathtub or shower, including or excluding a bidet, an emergency floor drain, or both. (greater than 1.6 gpf water closet) 6 Bathtub (with or without overhead shower) 2 Bidet 1 Combination sink-and-tray 2 Dental unit or cuspidor 1 Dental lavatory 1 Drinking fountain 0.5 Dishwasher, domestic 2 Floor drains 2 Kitchen sink, domestic 2 Kitchen sink, domestic, with food waste grinder and/or dishwasher 2 Lavatory 1 Laundry tray (1 or 2 compartments) 2 Shower 2 Service sink 2 Sink 2 Urinal 4 Urinal, 1 gallon per flush or less 2 Urinal, waterless 0.5 Wash Sink (circular or multiple) each set of faucets 2 Water closet, flushometer tank, public or private 4 Water closet, private (1.6 gpf) 3 Water closet, private (flushing greater than 1.6 gpf) 4 Water closet, public (1.6 gpf) 4 Water closet, public (flushing greater than 1.6 gpf) 6 Fixture drain or trap size: 1¼" 1 1½" 2 2" 3 2½" 4 3" 5 4" 6
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