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  1. I would like some feedback on my proposed distillery floor-plan. I'm somewhat constrained on my building size and due to being partial in a floodplain. The building will be a 30ft by 50 ft steel building 20 ft high. The distillery operations will be on 2/3 of the area on a mezzanine about 7 ft up. The remainder of the upper area will be tasting/retail. The lower area will be for the forklift and possibly barrel/tote/supply storage. There will be a 15x30 deck at the rear. Please tell me what you think could be improved or what I may be missing.
  2. I've been working on my distillery floor-plan and I just discovered a serious constraint due to local regulations. Because I will be running a house and distillery accessory structure off a sewer lateral I will be limited to 10 "drainage fixture units". So pretty much limited to one accessory structure for any real work other than storage. I want to be able to have a distillery and tasting room. So, can I get away with one bathroom? What is the minimum for the rest in terms of faucets and drains? Any clever thoughts or examples? Maybe collect all the gray water and just drain black water? I would think a a minimum: (5dfu) Bathroom group consisting of water closet, lavatory, and shower, including or excluding a bidet, an emergency floor drain, or both. (1.6 gpf water closet) (2 dfu) floor drain/floor sink (2 dfu) double sink (1 DFU) two waterless urinals Type of Fixture or Group of Fixtures Based on the 2006 International Plumbing Code Fixture Units Automatic clothes washer, commercial 3 Automatic clothes washer, residential 2 Bathroom group consisting of water closet, lavatory, bathtub or shower, including or excluding a bidet, an emergency floor drain, or both. (1.6 gpf water closet) 5 Bathroom group consisting of water closet, lavatory, bathtub or shower, including or excluding a bidet, an emergency floor drain, or both. (greater than 1.6 gpf water closet) 6 Bathtub (with or without overhead shower) 2 Bidet 1 Combination sink-and-tray 2 Dental unit or cuspidor 1 Dental lavatory 1 Drinking fountain 0.5 Dishwasher, domestic 2 Floor drains 2 Kitchen sink, domestic 2 Kitchen sink, domestic, with food waste grinder and/or dishwasher 2 Lavatory 1 Laundry tray (1 or 2 compartments) 2 Shower 2 Service sink 2 Sink 2 Urinal 4 Urinal, 1 gallon per flush or less 2 Urinal, waterless 0.5 Wash Sink (circular or multiple) each set of faucets 2 Water closet, flushometer tank, public or private 4 Water closet, private (1.6 gpf) 3 Water closet, private (flushing greater than 1.6 gpf) 4 Water closet, public (1.6 gpf) 4 Water closet, public (flushing greater than 1.6 gpf) 6 Fixture drain or trap size: 1¼" 1 1½" 2 2" 3 2½" 4 3" 5 4" 6
  3. Who pays for liquor store shelf space?

    To add to the complexity of this issue, each state regulates the three tiers (alcohol production/import , distribution and retail) differently. And there has been a lot of deregulation to let smaller players into the market so the barriers are dropping in limited ways. In virginia a "limited" distillery can act in all three tiers for their own products in limited ways. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-tier_system_(alcohol_distribution)
  4. DYE China?

    What kind of setup did you order?
  5. DSP Site Access Requirements?

    Tom - We are starting pretty small (100 gal stills) and we'll start with Rum and ethnic specialty spirits. The gravel road is about 600 ft long. Up to this point I've been looking at siting the DSP next to the road but that site presents a lot of hurdles : floodplain regs, foundation to bring first floor above floodplain, constrained building area, etc. Pretty much once we have the small building but there we could not do any additions. The site down the gravel road has issues like accessing the last 100 ft and utilities. But the cost is a bit of a wash because the cost of running the utilities is less than the cost of raising the foundation 2 ft above the floodplain. The gravel road site also allows for no constraints on growth. The alternative route may be to build a super tiny distillery near the road and a builder building down the gravel road for storage and move operations if things take off. Whiskey: We won't know for sure until we submit for permits but in my state agricultural buildings are exempt from the fire code. If I was rolling in dough or if the distillery does well then there is actually a 30" watermain all along the gravel road site.
  6. So it's starting to look the the best location for the DSP on my land is down my private gravel road, across a creek and up a hill. In bad weather it may be difficult to reach. I don't see anything specific about DSP access in 26 U.S. Code § 5178 but it does say "The Secretary shall prescribe such regulations relating to the location, construction, arrangement, and protection of distilled spirits plants as he deems necessary ". Anyone know of any issue of accessing a DSP via a trail or across a creek?
  7. Plastic Fermenting Tanks

    Catoctin Creek https://catoctincreekdistilling.com/
  8. (Direct) Heat Source for 120 Gallon Alembic?

    Southernhighland - I've pondered issues distilling on the grain. Last month I visited the company that makes the stills. The guy we talked too made it sound like adding a sieve plate to the bottom of the still would solve any issues. But I just picture myself trying to scrape burnt muck out from the bottom of the still. mendodistilling- Do you have any links to the DISCUS discussions? From talking with the still manufacturer, they don't really do those kind of mods anymore. I've pondered hiring a welder to add a flange to work with dairy fittings. Seems do-able. So far no luck finding someone who works with copper. Thanks for the great information!
  9. (Direct) Heat Source for 120 Gallon Alembic?

    Well, I'm setting up a farm distillery about 5 miles from the George Washington distillery. They use wood to hear their stills. And there are endless examples of US distilleries using direct heat and oil bath heat. Col. Vaugh Wilson (http://coppermoonshinestills.com/) and Joeseph Dehner (http://www.dehnerdistillery.com/) both suggested oil bath too. Plus all the previous discussions on the topic. http://adiforums.com/index.php?/topic/1267-direct-flame-fired-stills/ As far as compliance, I'll have to propose design and see how they respond. It's a bit of a grey area since I'm setting up a farm distillery and "Nonresidential farm structures" are exempt from state fire code. I plan to walk my proposed distillery layout by the local fire marshal.
  10. (Direct) Heat Source for 120 Gallon Alembic?

    If anyone on this group has one of the "Iberian Coppers (copper-alembic.com) stills, I'm trying to interpret the dimensions without luck. For the 450L model, what is the still diameter? From the dimensions I would assume 1280mm but emailing them directly they said they don;t know because they don;t have one on hand. The website says 1980 mm x 2100 mm x 1280 mm overall.
  11. (Direct) Heat Source for 120 Gallon Alembic?

    Any recommendations on names of companies that make powerful enough electric heaters for this purpose and maybe product numbers? I'm also looking at building a bath heater/bain marie. It's an attractive option. A copper tub big enough seem cost prohibitive but I would think bi-metellac/galvanic corrosion would be a problem if the outer container is galvanized or stainless steel. Anyone with experience?
  12. Radiant Heat?

    Anyone reply with the controllers?
  13. (Direct) Heat Source for 120 Gallon Alembic?

    So what "safer" hear sources are there? Electric? It looks like I need about 220K BTU to heat roughly 100 gallons? Hot plate? Immersion elements?
  14. Distillery Equipment

    Same here. Info on prices please.
  15. Black Water Barrels Production Process

    Great video!
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