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  1. ViolentBlue

    Canadian-Made Equipment

    we do use Chinese manufacturers, however we are a Canadian Company that stands behind out products, and our engineering. Cage and Sons is a fully Canadian owned family business, that is capable of covering from initial consulting, through production all the way to final bottled product. process engineering, equipment production and training on your equipment. for US, Canada or further afield, we can do piece or turn Key.
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    Bubbleplate Vodka Column FOR SALE - Artisan Still Design

    drop me a line, I designed this column. it was several years ago but I will guarantee the column was designed correctly. I did the engineering on it, a claim very few can make.
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    Tube-in-Tube Heat Exchanger Design and vendors

    i will agree my current designs look similar to German designs, that is as far as that goes. as will all my designs, they are engineered from the ground up as my own and unique designs. nothing is taken from anyone else, not even stock designs. as you know intellectual property is often stolen or traded in China without second though. I remember a conversation we had several years ago about one manufacturer in china that outright stole designs from me. you were quite bothered by this notion and swore you would never do business with this company. I had no intention of turning this thread into a pissing contest, it was only my intention to point out there are Innovators and there are thieves, and there are those who re-sell products from thieves and pass it off as their own. so customers have the option of buying from the innovator, thief or re-seller. its how capitalism works. there seems to be a 2 year cycle from the time I draw something up for production and someone else starts selling a bad copy of that design. so that means as long as i keep pushing forward with innovation, then I will always be 2 years ahead.
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    Tube-in-Tube Heat Exchanger Design and vendors

    yes the idea of a tube in tube heat exchange has been around for a very long time, I'm talking about a specific design, that has been copied to exact dimension. Paul you seem to know far more about my design than I do yours. by law there must be a 20% change in overall dimensions and features for it to be considered a new design, instead of a copy. this is not the first design I have drawn up that has been copied, released to the public and sold by other vendors here. Oh well the only thing to do is push forward with new innovation, and stay ahead of the curve.
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    Tube-in-Tube Heat Exchanger Design and vendors

    I am the original designer of these wort coolers, been building them for years with many happy customers. not sure how my drawings got out into the public. https://www.cageandsons.com/type-aux-wort-cooler I have several of these units in stock ready to ship
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    Outlet size on mash tun

    you might be able to coax it to work but its always going to be an issue. what size piping do you use for mash transfer? up size it to match that at least, 1.5 or 2" are your minimum ideals with a grain in mash, I would even suggest going to 4" and using a conical reducer to your hose/pump size, to minimize blockage.
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    Equipment Vendors Selling Stills with Design Flaws

    i can be reached at steven@cageandsons.com
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    Benefits of Tube in Jacket Condensers?

    its easier to get the same surface are for cooling in a smaller package
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    Steven Cage

    Just a brief notice to you all out there that know me. as of September 11 2017, I have left Artisan Still Design Please direct any questions or communication for ASD to neil@atrisanstilldesign.com Thanks
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    Steven Cage

    New company, and new line of equipment www.cageandsons.com
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    Semi - Automation of hybrid still

    MGL is correct, flow in the bottom and out the top in order to automatically purge the air. how it is currently set up 75% of your cooling surface are will not be used
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    Vapor in Column Backflow

    a p-trap is helpful, but there needs to be sufficient height separating the column bottoms, P-trap and fluid level of the boiler. otherwise you wont have enough head for gravity to do its thing and overcome the micro pressures in the kettle. 12" of height difference between kettle fluid levels and the bottom of your column only gives you a gravity/pressure difference of 0.375 PSI. this is well within the range of pressures you can build in the kettle, even with an open vapor path. Many of the newcomers to the equipment market are using 12" or less height difference, realistically 24" or more would be ideal, but then height becomes a concern. throw in Dual columns, and your troubles double. individual plate flooding is another issue, it can either be bad plate design, or a combination of running too much heat and too much reflux, in which case back off on the heat, back off on dephlegmater flow and you will have the same results out of your parrot with fewer column flooding problems.
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    Column Diameter and collection rate

    its not just a matter of column diameter, but also plate design. a poorly designed plate will need to be bigger in order to get the throughput, but then the vapor velocity suffers. a perforated plate column, should be slightly smaller in diameter in order to drive the velocity higher, or else you wont achieve balance in the column and the fluid will fall out. it is a balancing act to make one of these systems work, there are some rules of thumb, tricks and workarounds, but it all comes back to the math.
  14. So Its official, Just launched the website for this new Venture.I've been working hard for these past months creating all new designs, at competitive prices.https://www.cageandsons.comhttps://www.facebook.com/cageandsons most around here know me, and Know that I have been in the industry for many years Designing and Manufacturing equipment in partnership with another company. I have set out on my own, going back to the roots of what I do, unencumbered and uncompromised. This new line has been designed specifically to compete dollar for dollar while delivering a system designed from the ground up to a higher standard. check us out on our website and facebook
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    How to keep cooling water from going bad

    you will have to follow instructions on the container, I believe they have a chart for rough PH correction.
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    Black deposit on inside of copper still

    the black build up would most likely be copper salts, nothing to be afraid of. not likely they are remnants of the manufacturing process, but if you are really concerned do a full cleaning regiment, start with a hot caustic (PBW) wash to remove any residual oils, rinse with clean water then a cold acid to break down the copper salts. if you have a CIP recirculate it, if not, glove up and get scrubbing by hand. if you heat the acid it becomes more effective, but even a mild a acid solution can do a lot of damage to the skin when hot, so be very careful.
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    Black deposit on inside of copper still

    once you do your first run, the hot acidic wash will clean that right off
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    How to keep cooling water from going bad

    if you have the cooling water in contact with stainless alt all, do not use bleach or any chlorine. Star Sans acid #5, just push the ph to 6 or a hair under and no algae will grow and it will keep your stainless rust free, as well it will be much less harsh on your copper than citric acid.
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    Stillhouse Vs. Whiskey Systems

    been working with Donald for years now, I was playing with whiskey systems in its alpha stages. I believe it carries some of its DNA over from Donalds time with Buffalo Trace (before the pappy was stolen) so there is a lot of tested professional development in its core. so I am a bit biased towards WS. in my experince , to the average user the two systems are about the same, I believe WS has some deeper levels you could delve into that offer more. where WS really shines, is access to people knowledgeable in the industry, turn around time for new features to be added when something new is requested and of course price.
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    Electric Steam Generator

    Sussman Boilers work well, I've worked with them on several stills. cost of operation is a bit higher than gas boilers, piping is the same, but requirements for firewalls and such are much less stringent than with gas fired. you will find the law of diminishing returns applies the larger you go. but for smaller distilleries 0-150 gallons electric bain marie works welll and is cheaper, I would use an electric boiler for anything larger.
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    Malting Equipment

    I have a Malting System that is currently being prototyped. until it is proven out, wont quite be ready for prime time.
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    300 gallon new Still for sale

    Nope, definately not ASD's manufacturer. Makes you wonder why they would make that claim though.
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    500L Artisan Still

    I have a design we've been working on, just a little more work and its ready to go into production. a few things are missing on this design, but I won't point them all out at this time. I invite your comments and questions.
  24. Well many of you have been waiting with anticipation for the production run of our 30 gallon glass column still you saw at the ADI conference. good news, boilers have arrive and production has begun on the columns. we're just about ready to take your order. this new unit is a co-operative effort of Artisan Still Design and Paradise Lost Bev Co. kits as shown in the pictures below will sell for $5000. Includes: Boiler, Glass Column, Dephleg, product condenser, electric heat control system and element adapters. please direct order inquiries to lurch@paradiselostbevco.com Photos generously provided by Appalachian Mountain Spirits LLC, who owns our prototype unit.