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  1. Speedy Barcodes

    In my other life I have been in the barcode business from the industrial side for 35 years. I have many contacts in the business and here are their comments. Their names have been deleted. Many of these folks have been involved in barcodes since day one. *************************************************************************************************************************************************** I bought one of the numbers then looked it up on GEPIR. My number was originally part of a block owned by XXX. Apparently, this company bought its number from UCC back when it only required a one-time payment, consequently it is not dependent on annual renewals for validity. In any event, I would imagine that GS1 would not be too thrilled with Speedy Bar Code. *************************************************************************************************************************************************************** It is truly amazing how much history gets lost as us retired firemen get farther from the front lines. The UCC issued their prefixes with a lifetime, one time fee. After they merged with EAN to become GS1 their experiment with the dot com business model failed and in an effort to recover their losses GS1-US tried to switch and charge previous prefix holders dues. Several long time UCC members sued. They were successful and GS1-US stopped sending invoices to their members. Thus the long time UCC members did not and do not have to join GS1-US again. They are members by right of their previous membership in the UCC. GS1-US cannot rescind the prefixes previously issued. As for selling individual UPCs – That is a practice that has gone on for decades. I recall there were a number of other who did as well. The prefix I bought is 8 digits long, so theoretically I could sell 10,000 UPCs (each 12 digits long), or even more fun I could go with GTINs at 14 digits and sell a million of them. This is nothing new. My advice to any potential purchaser would be caution – as long as this outfit does what is promises and does not reissue a number, then you are pretty much safe. GS1 membership does have some advantages, in that they keep you updated on changes and how to implement their system. At one time you could not get the General Specification without paying for it. New GS1-US members got it free and the old UCC members were told to pay to for it. Now it is free and available online without charge or restriction. If you are inclined to read the GENSPEC and follow the changes then GS1-US membership for the really small manufacturers does indeed make no sense. ****************************************************** This activity is legal and dates back to the early 2000’s. Basically those organizations who purchased barcode numbers prior to August 28, 2002 owned these barcode for life…they became part of the organization’s assets. The company could keep them or sell them. These folks were grandfathered into the current way GS1 US is conducting business. If you were to purchase the barcodes today, you would pay an annual licensing fee to GS1 US. Basically the numbers being sold on Speedy Barcodes are probably those that organization bought because the original purchaser wasn’t doing anything with the. Details: https://www.barcodestalk.com/ucc-settlement ***************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** Essentially they are hocking GTIN's (not UPCA's) using a GS1 US company prefix's that they have licensed. This practice is not approved and is not recommended. Many new companies are unaware that they need to obtain a Company Prefix directly from GS1 US. There are online firms offering individual UPC’s. Many of these UPC barcode resellers are preying on the lack of understanding by many small new businesses. Common claims are “Our UPC’s originate with the GS1”, “Official UPC codes”, or “Authentic and Unique UPC barcodes”. Before you take a chance with your company’s future, we encourage you become educated on the actual requirements and processes required to properly mark your items and shipments. This alternative might work for your situation, but you should be fully informed of potential limitations. The barcodes being sold from Speedy do not meet GS1 US standards and depending on their purpose they may be unusable. For instance, you could not mark food with them and sell the food to Krogers. You could probably mark food and sell it through a small store operation. It is not recommended and we at AIM Global should not encourage this practice.
  2. Distillery in Malt Plant

    Thanks Bluestar - we will do whatever is necessary to make the TTB happy. Dave Dunbar has been a very good source of information for us to date.
  3. Distillery in Malt Plant

    We are building a malt plant and wish to have a distillery in the same building. Can the malt plant be part of the bonded area? We will be making all malt whiskey. I have searched the TTB site and there is nothing that seems to address this issue.
  4. Speedy Barcodes

    Well, you learn something new every day. This was written by a friend familiar with the company and barcodes in general. "They are working within a loophole created by a class action lawsuit. They buy the prefixes from people not using them and then resell product numbers."
  5. Speedy Barcodes

    MGL is correct. GS1 are the folks that keep track of each companies issued codes. This way there is no overlap. I have no idea what Speedy might be selling but I have written to AIM (Automatic Identification Manufacturers) to see what their take on this is. Each company the world over that is a subscriber to GS1 has its own unique company identifier and block of product numbers which they are free to assign to their products. I'll post whatever response I get.
  6. Distillery in Malt Plant

    bluestar - Yes, we will be. This was fully disclosed in the application.
  7. Distillery in Malt Plant

    Got our permit to have a DSP and malt plant in the same building without any partition or wall between. Dave Dunbar did all the work on this one. This is allowed by the regulations but as Dave told me from the start of this application (took 46 days) the TTB does not have to grant permission. If you want to understand how he did it, please contact Dave directly. Dave is a constant contributor to this forum. David Dunbar dhdunbar1@gmail.com Ellensburg, WA
  8. Get your Federal Permit? How long did it take?

    West Branch Malts, Brunswick OH 46 days. This is a special case in that we are building a distillery inside a malt house. Dave Dunbar did all the heavy lifting on this one. There is a separate thread about the malt house where I will post more information so I don't sidetrack this thread.
  9. Hey Paul, What's the footprint of the still you describe in your post? Are you still able to achieve a Maillard reaction at these lower temps under vacuum?
  10. Finished Product Storage and Exemption

    Our fire marshall is okay with anything in consumer packaging and not counting it towards our total allowed. Please understand that means nothing. Your AHJ gets to determine the meaning of the specifications and his comfort level.
  11. Finished Product Storage and Exemption

    There are many posts on this forum that refer to the Authority Having Jurisdiction (AHJ). Your local building department is this entity and they call the shots. 1. Never heard of this. 2. Bottles do not count towards you "storage" Here's a good article http://www.klausbruckner.com/blog/distillery-storage-dilemmas/ 3. This is up to the AHJ. Most equipment coming in from Europe is not UL but there are billions of dollars in European equipment running in the US. 4. Doesn't seem logical but this is a call for the AHJ
  12. grain cleaner

    I'm happy you have never seen it. However, I know of at least 1 instance where the DON level in malt barley was 7% and was brought down to .6% with a Satake color sorter. I know of no maltster who does not test for DON.
  13. grain cleaner

    The "cheap" barley is not likely malt grade and can have nasty items such as vomitoxin (DON) in its mix. Prior to purchasing, the barley would be tested and a maltster would reject this barley since a high enough concentration would make people (and animals) sick. Vomitoxin will not be corrected by cleaning.
  14. Malting Equipment

    You are probably in the wrong place. Craft Maltsters Guild is where you would want to ask this question. http://craftmalting.com/ There is a "contact us" towards the bottom of the page. If no one responds in a day or two let me know and I'll try to get you an invite. But, I would need your name, company name, location and what you are trying to accomplish to put this out as a general mailing to the Guild.
  15. Motors for agitators and pumps

    You need to discuss this with your Chief Building Inspector. He is the AHJ (authority having jurisdiction). If he says it's okay to install non-UL equipment that is his call or the call of someone that reports to him. Many large pieces of equipment that are being used in factories in the US but are imported and not UL or CSA are installed and used every day. Keep in mind, he does not have to say yes.
  16. Steam Boiler

    The real answer is to talk to your Head Building Inspector. He or someone who reports to him is the AHJ (authority having jurisdiction) in this matter. If he says it is okay to have in his city, then it is okay. Many pieces of factory equipment that are installed in the US are not UL or CSA but that is up to the AHJ.
  17. Alcohol monitor - CO2 monitor

    This is pretty much the size that I will be trying to match. How big a pump are you using and how/when are you triggering it? Sounds like the sanitizer tank is a 5 gal container, what did you use? Would you mind taking a picture and posting this great solution for all to see? Thanks again for all your time.
  18. Alcohol monitor - CO2 monitor

    Visited a distillery in today and the Distiller mentioned having both an alcohol and CO2 monitor. He thought this was required by TTB. Is there any monitoring required by TTB, if so, what? He has an interesting way of venting the CO2 from his closed tank fermenters using his CIP tube into a bucket of soap. Anyone else using this technique? How does this help to disperse the CO2?
  19. Alcohol monitor - CO2 monitor

    Elegant, thanks for the insight. Any recommendation on the size of the sanitizer tank based on fermenter size? How did you decide on a size for the pump?
  20. Alcohol monitor - CO2 monitor

    Thanks for the insight folks. Skaalvenn, how do you "pump all the CO2 to the outside"? I get the fact that the sanitizer acts as an air lock but how do you get the CO2 out of the sanitizer? Sorry to be so dense but since CO2 is heavier then air this might be a better way to rid ourselves then triggering our vents fans which are 10 feet high.
  21. Alcohol monitor - CO2 monitor

    Based on your previous post and my discussion with the distiller yesterday, we are going to monitor for CO2 and Ethanol and tie this into the ventilation system. Since CO2 is heavier than air I would think that the CO2 sensor has to be no more then 5' above the floor. Any recommendation as to the height of the sensors?
  22. Alcohol monitor - CO2 monitor

    Thanks Tom, Any idea what the chemistry is behind the sanitizer? Why does it work? What do you do with the sanitizer in the bucket after its full of CO2 bubbles? We've got good venting in our building and will have monitors in place but the fact that CO2 is heavier then air make me wonder how good a job I will do dispersing it with fans in the middle of winter. I'm surprised this topic is not discussed on this forum and I could not find much information elsewhere. Is this not a big issue? One of my associates just came back from school warning of "brewers death"
  23. Fermenter chilling

    We hope to have somewhere between 4 and 7 300 gallon jacketed fermenters that will be temperature controlled with water from a large tank that is chilled from a glycol chiller. I am trying to decide how to chill only the fermenter which needs its temperature brought down. I am thinking of a temperature controlled valve mounted to each fermenter that would either let the water into the jacket if necessary via a T fitting or if closed would bypass this fermenter. Any better ideas? If this is a good idea any suggestions on where to get this type of valve? We will be an all malt shop and we will be fermenting off grain. Thanks!
  24. Fermenter chilling

    Thanks guys, Good stuff. mjduheme - the tank already exist for another purpose. It is 5000 gallons and we keep it at 52 degrees. For the time being it is an easier plumbing job until we get to the point where we need another chiller. I didn't consider using manifolds but that seems to be a great solution.
  25. Hello From Florida

    I'm great. You tour and tastings were wonderful. I hope to do it again this Fall.
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