Thatch

Thanks for the quick response @FIVE x 5 Consulting and @Kindred Spirits, no, the TTB did not cite the forum discussion.  That was me trying to get things headed in the right direction.

If it is no longer allowed, so be it!

I got this response from the TTB today.  I cannot find anything that says why.  I know that others on the forum have stated that TIB of bottled spirits is allowed.  Can anyone come up with the TTB text that explicitly says the transfer of bottled spirits is allowed.  This may have only been a temporary measure based on

Thanks in advance

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Your question about the type of mill was answered nicely by @AdamOVD but you have not told us what type of grain you will be using, this could be helpful in other suggestions we might have for you.

Hammermill for corn, roller mill for malted barley

depending on how far you want to move from the mill to the tun will decide the cost of the conveyor.  We got a quote for parts only to convey 30' to our tun using Hog Slat parts that was under $1500 https://www.hogslat.com/grower-select-grow-flex-auger-feeding-fill-system

Milling creates a lot of dust, make sure your AHJ is onboard with where the mill will be placed.

Flexible screw conveyor.  9 meters long - 3.5 inch diameter - 480 volt 3 phase motor - weighs something less than 200 lbs - used less than 5 times - buyer pays freight from 44212 - Other specs from the manufacturer below

This is what we have available.  $18 per proof gallon FOB 44212. All of these spirits were treated with spirals from Barrel Mill.  If you would prefer to have it blended, we can do that as well and re-barrel the blend.  At this point, other than the wheat all barrels meet the criteria to be called American Single Malt.   Our current identity is as follows other than the wheat.  This hooch is ready to bottle which we generally do at 90 proof and have good reviews from most anyone that has tasted it.
WHISKY DISTILLED FROM
MALT MASH¹
Whisky produced in the U.S. at
not exceeding 80% alcohol by
volume (160 proof) from a
fermented mash of not less than
51 percent malted barley and
stored in used oak containers

If we were to blend it, our identity would be as follows including the wheat

BLENDED MALT WHISKY OR
MALT WHISKY – A BLEND³
Blended whisky containing not
less than 51% on a proof gallon
basis (excluding alcohol derived
from added harmless coloring,
flavoring or blending materials*)
straight malt whisky

Barrel#        Mash Bill             Wine    Entry        Barrel        Notes

                                                Gallon    Proof       Date
31    Whiskey (100% Barley)    13.7      120.3    1/14/2022    Pilsner
32    Whiskey (100% Barley)    28.3    125.9    2/24/2022    Pilsner
33    Whiskey (100% Barley)    17.3      131.8    3/22/2022     Pilsner          
35    Whiskey (100% Barley)    30         108.5    6/6/2022    Pilsner
36    Whiskey (100% Barley)    30        108.5    6/6/2022      Pilsner
37    Whiskey (100% Barley)    21          111       6/17/2022    Pilsner
38    Whiskey (100% Barley)    21          111        6/17/2022    Pilsner
39    Whiskey (100% Barley)    24         114.4    7/21/2022    Light Munich
40    Whiskey (100% Barley)    29         114.3    7/26/2022    Vienna
41    Whiskey (100% Barley)    30          110.2    8/11/2022    Pilsner
42    Whiskey (100% Barley)    30         109.8    8/10/2022    Pilsner, Light Munich and Vienna
43    Whiskey (100% Barley)    15.2       115.7    9/26/2022    Pilsner
44    70% Malted Wheat           30          111      11/15/2022    Malted Wheat and Malted Barley
45    Whiskey (100% Barley)    30           111       1/3/2023      60/20/20 Blend Pilsner, Vienna and Munich
46    Whiskey (100% Barley)    15            111       1/3/2023      60/20/20 Blend Pilsner, Vienna and Munich

If you are interested DM me.  Thanks

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Cincinnati Insurance has special spirits programs.  They seem  to understand distilleries better than others.

No good way to keep it suspended between the 500 gallon fermenter and the still.  It's only a problem with an all malt wash.

Bump.  Price reduction to $4000

Going to have to move some of our stock, several hundred proof gallons, to accomodate a change in structure.  Anyone have a handle on where pricing is on this spirit.   Various barreled dates.

PM if you want to talk about a purchase, for now I'm looking at where the selling price should be.

1 hour ago, Pour Decisions said:

TTB's requirements are much easier to meet than your local AHJ. I'd start with your local zoning/codes offices and find out whether their requirements are capable of being met at the proposed site.

ditto - far more important.  Your local AHJ may not want a distillery in their jurisdiction.  TTB requirement are not that difficult to meet but talking to your local building inspector and fire marshall come first.   Are they okay with this?  What is their read on the building and fire codes with regard to a distillery?  Keep in mind, this is THEIR turf.

From a couple of old posts of mine

For the pump, michael@tcwequipment.com.  He is very helpul to all on this forum.  He can also provide filters  Great support long after the sale has taken place

For the RO system, https://www.buckeyehydro.com/  great support even after a year or two

MobilTherm 43.  We have also used G35 heat transfer oil from Lotos.  https://lotosoil.pl/upload/oil/import/12624_olej grzewczy G35_ENG.doc.pdf

https://www.akobak.com/

@Jedd Haas  Don't know that folks you mentioned but we've had a very good experince with:

XILONG PACKAGING CO., LTD 
Web: www.xilong-glass.com
Tel: 0086 (0)21 67626086                                              Fax: 0086 (0)21 67626011   

 You can deal with them through Alibaba using Trade Assurance and if anything is wrong Alibaba will act a the middleman to make things right.

1 hour ago, John Bassett said:

Any information on that potential code change?

John, it depends on what your municipality will allow.  This thread should be helpful.  If you have other questions, PM me

Steven Cage was one of the Founders, perhaps he will talk to you. @Cage and Sons

https://www.cageandsons.com/

56 minutes ago, whiskeytango said:

This setup will be in Zambia not sure that they give two cents about OSHA or any other American code.

8 hours ago, Thatch said:

Although it is based on US codes, it is likely that Zambia's are similar.  The only one who can decide for certain is your local fire marshall.

Hello Velten and Welcome,

The short answer is, you will have to move the box.  This article should be very informative.  Although it is based on US codes, it is likely that Zambia's are similar.  The only one who can decide for certain is your local fire marshall.

https://proof33.com/everything-distillers-need-to-know-about-explosion-proofing-and-the-electric-sombrero-of-death/#:~:text=What Is the Sombrero of,codes as well as OSHA.

According to the manufacturer, no problem.  The problem with an all malt mash is foaming.  If you can bring your wash to a boil on your kitchen stove and there is no foam over, then there is no problem.  Unfortunately an all malt wash 1 inch high in a 8 inch tall sauce pan will foam over when brought to a boil.  But, it has to be a clean wash, this still is not for distilling on grain.

7 hours ago, SlickFloss said:

exclusively issues to all malt mashes or what about say a different grain wash like a corn mash?

Bump with a price reduction $5500.00