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    proof obscuration

    My question is what about liquor with sugar added between 0-400mg/100ml? Does TTB ignore the obscuration up this point. If it is 0.4 degrees obscuration of proof per 100g/100ml it seems like that is a lot of allowable error.
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    spirit scales

    Thanks for the Info Silk City. I haven't seen any mention of scale for determination of obscuration of proof by evaporation. The TTB video says "an analytical balance reading to at least 4 decimal places" and shows a 2.4166 gram readout, which would equal 0.1mg readout; but I don't see anything in the gauging manual to back that up. It seems exorbitantly accurate to me but maybe I am missing something. I am ignoring the difference between readout and accuracy which was pointed out, because the video specifically mentions readout. 400mg sugar per 100ml would be minimum reading of 100mg per 25ml sample. At readout of 1 mg that is max 0.5% error, and if the proof is obscured by 1.6 degree per 400mg/100ml than the error due to scale accuracy becomes 0.008 degree of proof. I would think that is within the bounds of what is required. At 0.1mg readout this becomes 0.0008 degree proof. I just got a $435.10 0.1mg readout scale (repeatability +- 0.3mg) from Amazon for this purpose but it is not NTEP. Prime scales gave me a quote for $1,000 and said the NTEP version would be 3-4 times more. I am going to go on the assumption I don't need NTEP for this since the potential for error is so small. Thanks for any feedback.
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    1L Kaleido O-I bottles (Oslo, Nordic, etc.)

    it says $200 I believe
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    Review of Confederate Stills of Alabama

    I got a still and a masher from them and wish I had never done business with them.
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    Corn Mashing Temp

    We are currently using a White Labs temp stable alpha-amylase prior to beginning the boil and heating to 190 f. Directions says to add pre boil and that enzyme will be de-activated during the boil. If doing a method like DonMateo talked about, adding the water super hot with the grain and letting it cool, would adding the alpha amylase at its highest stable temp during cool down still be beneficial? Is there a reason you want the alpha to be de-activated at some point? We also add barley at 145 f.
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    I was wondering about this the other day. If you are unsure of the sugar content, would a TDS meter work for determining what method you need to determine proof by? (a) General. Proof obscuration of spirits containing more than 400 but not more than 600 milligrams of solids per 100 milliliters shall be determined by one of the following methods. The evaporation method may be used only for spirits in the range of 80–100 degrees at gauge proof. If 1 ppm = 1mg/l that would be 4,000-6,000 ppm TDS reading.
  7. Two x 200 gallon cypress wood fermenters manufactured by Confederate Stills Alabama. These have never been used, I ended up buying 4 fermenters but only need two based on our production schedule. $1,750 each. 2" tri clamp outlets, removable wood stands. I can deliver within days drive of 26270 WV for a fee. Thanks for looking and let me know if you have any questions.
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    Wood Fermenters 200 gal x 2 - unused

    Paid $1,750 per new. Add in delivery you are looking at $2,000 per. They have ever been used. Make an offer.
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    West Virginia Distillers Guild?

    I am not sure but would be very interested in joining.
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    Whiskey Distillation Efficiency Problems

    Does the bluing in the still indicate a vapor leak? I am getting poor yield and blue staining on my tri clamp gaskets between the column sections.
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    Bourbon and rye for sale, 53g barrels

    At what proof were they barreled?
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    Loss in low-wines run

    Hi Jedd, I just ran my first stripping run, I calculated about 9.5 gal total alcohol in the wash and got back 7.3 gal. I stopped running still when effluent was at 10% alcohol. Could you please share what is your estimated ethanol loss left in the still for a stripping run? I'm assuming less than 23% I got.
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    Does anybody know where these are still available?
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    Final proofing documentation for TTB

    Do you know of any form/worksheet like this for Gauge Record? I thought I read on one of these forums there where a downloadable set of templates that came with becoming an ADI member but now cant find it.
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    Bourbon and rye for sale, 53g barrels

    It seems like a reasonable question to me. I use enzymes and am fairly new to distilling, so I am trying to learn whether it has a negative impact on the final product (either perceived or actual) . Would you say the customers that ask are turned off by the fact it has liquid enzymes added to the mash?
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    Inventory Requirements - barrels

    I've been re-reading some cfrs trying to make sure I am doing all the reporting correctly. My question is does the quarterly inventory include all barrels? Do you have to move and weigh all barrels each quarter? 19.333 Physical inventories. A proprietor must take a physical inventory of all spirits and wines held in the storage account in tanks and other containers (except packages) at the close of each calendar quarter. A proprietor must record the results of the inventory as provided in subpart V of this part. TTB may require additional inventories at any time.
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    Inventory Requirements - barrels

    Thanks, I just found those definitions. The efcr.gov website is much easier to navigate the the gpo.gov site. So is being in the storage vs. production account what differentiates a "tank" from a "package"? If I do my production gauge on each still run and then transfer into the storage account to a 100 gallon metal drum, the 100 gallon drum would be a "package" and not subject to the quarterly inventory?
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    Inventory Requirements - barrels

    Is a barrel deemed a "package" for this purpose.
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    Hello from south central PA!

    Good luck. We are a small operation not to far from the PA line near Davis, WV if you ever want to come see our operation.
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    Hello from Silver Bear Distillery

    Congratulations and best of luck! I love Aquavit! We have a Swedish fellow who always brings some home made stuff to the local cross country ski area.
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    SS Cooling Coil For 55 gal

    Where is it located?
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    Storage Account

    I am doing monthly TTB reporting. In December I distilled some whiskey and put it in a stainless tank and recorded the proof gallons on the December Production report as going into a tank. In January I transferred the product from the tank to several barrels. I see no where on the Storage form to show if the whiskey is in a tank or barrel. Do I just keep internal documentation of the transfer to the barrels in case of an audit? Or am I missing something on the monthly storage reporting as to where the spirits are being stored? Thanks, Athey
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    Storage Account

    Thanks you for the reply, that does help. I am now curious about the PS barrel designation for steamed or water filled barrels. Would that affect its designation as a new barrel for making bourbon? I recently purchased a couple new barrels and the cooper told me to fill them water for two days prior to filling with spirits to let the wood swell.
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    Corn Whiskey - too much heads

    Do you know of any yeast strains that would produce less volatile acids in this type of mash?