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  1. They are wired in delta connection. My electrician is recommending bypassing the control panel and wiring the elements directly to do a test heating cycle and see if they work better to determine if an issue lies within the control panel.
  2. The elements are 230v 3 phase 60hz. Attached is a photo of the wiring. The white lines on the bottom left go to the elements.
  3. The elements are from China. The controller was built locally.
  4. We have 3-phase 208v power. Each of the three wires to each element shows 5.5 amps. I'm waiting to hear back on specific specs the elements should be getting, I was originally told the elements required 60 amps.
  5. Anyone have any recommendations on how to check/verify heating elements are working to their full potential? I know its kind of a loaded question but running out of ideas. We have 3x 7kw heating elements in a 100 gallon still. Our heat up times are ridiculously long. In our latest test batch, with putting about 15 gallons of water in the jacket of the pot, even after 4-5 hours the water in the jacket never got hotter than about 180ish. The elements are hooked up to a control panel. I have verified with the manufacturer that everything is hooked up correctly and is supplying enough power. My electricians have come back and verified the elements are wired correctly. Obviously I know the elements are heating, but is there some simple method to verify they are all working to their full potential and not having a loss of power somewhere along the way?
  6. I purchased some of the Hudson Exchange HDPE buckets to store low wines in. After a week of sitting, there is a yellow tinge to the low wines, when it was clear after distillation. The proofs ranged from 150-120 in the buckets. Was I wrong in assuming these buckets were adequate for temporary storage, or is maybe something else going on that caused the color change?
  7. derek.duf

    Odin on Gin

    Do you recommend doing a stripping run or not? Distilling from grain, starting with a ~11% wash. We plan to distill to a neutral spirit, dilute to 30%, then run through a gin basket. Is a stripping run a waste of time in this scenario? Should we just run it through all the plates to begin with?
  8. derek.duf

    Odin on Gin

    Had a newb question on Gin, and this looks like the place to ask! (If not, apologies, I can start a separate thread). We do everything from grain, so will not be using GNS. My gin basket is located right after the pot, before the columns (separate 4 plate and 16 plate columns). So the idea was to take our filtered vodka, diluted down to 30%, and redistill this for our Gin. The question I have is how many plates should I run this through after the gin basket? Straight to the condenser? Through 4 plates? Any help or pointers would be appreciated!
  9. Primarily Vodka/Gin
  10. So I'm SOL if my still doesn't have a way to check temps above the dephlegmator? haha
  11. I have previously only used a simple small pot still, so trying to properly understand the use of a dephlegmator. The still has 2 columns, with a dephlegmator on top of both columns. Each deph has a cavity with a water inlet/outlet, with tubes running within for the vapor. I have valves on the water inlet/outlet, so that I can fill up the cavity and adjust the flow as necessary. However, the only places for me to monitor temperature is in the column below the deph, or a temp probe that sits in the cavity in the deph that would give me the water temperature. Under this scenario, where is the best location to monitor temp to best adjust the flow of the cooling water in the deph? Thanks so much for any advice.
  12. I wasn't sure whether to put this in the Beginner section or Technique, but since its mainly about technique I threw it here..but be warned it is definitely beginner in nature. We are getting ready in the next few weeks to start playing around with out 100 gal still. This is a side project at this point in time, so the plan always was to 'learn on the job' as we are not trying to push any product out in the near future. I have read every book and website I could over the last 6 months to learn as much as I could, but now staring up at the still, its hard to figure out how to put that book knowledge into real life. I have a list of questions regarding proper usage of the still, if anyone could help answer some of these it would be greatly appreciated. Most of these questions have to do with temperatures. My plan has been to make cuts based on temperature as we learn, and I have all the temperature ranges, but where specifically are we talking about the temperature? Is this in reference to the temp of the vapor as it leaves the kettle? The temp of the wash? Or somewhere else in the process? Is there a target temperature to keep the mash at once we start boiling, or is it more of visual to keep everything flowing consistently? We have 2 columns, a 4-plate and a 16-plate. For the dephlegmator, is there a temperature range I should be shooting for when controlling the flow of the cooling water? Our still manufacturer said most people want the cooling water temp on the dephlegmator to around 78C. Does this make sense? For condensing column, we were recommended to have the distillate come out between 34-40C. Is this a good range? After typing this out, I guess I'm really asking if the main things I should be looking for and paying attention to is the temps in the kettle, the dephs, and the condenser? And then make adjustments to keep those temps in range.
  13. I'd prefer to try out water first, mainly for the safety aspect. Even if it makes the day a bit longer, feel safer at least having 1 less thing that can cause a dangerous situation. I saw another thread where you mentioned doing some trials with water. So best to fill my jackets up about 1/2 way with water, and obviously keep the vent open to allow the steam pressure to escape. Then I guess just keep an eye on the water level during the run to make sure we don't go dry, then adjust the amount of water used for future batches based on how much water was left over at the end. Does that make sense?
  14. @Southernhighlander If you had a moment, would you be able to provide me some advice? I've been doing a lot of searching and trying to figure out that best heat transfer fluid to put in my bain marie style pot, and your name seems to pop up on most of the threads and seem the most knowledgeable. I hate asking for advice from a company that I did not purchase my equipment from, but would really appreciate and advice you could give. Most of the heat transfer fluids I've found have to be used in a closed loop system and need a pump to move the fluid around so it doesn't burn, which I have neither of. I've seen some threads of using water instead of oil, however my jackets are not rated for pressure so not sure if that could work. Do you have any recommendations on specific oils to use? This is for a 100 gal pot. Thanks!
  15. Could anyone provide me heating oil recommendations for a bain marie pot still? Looks like I need about 35 gallons worth. Thanks!
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