Rickdiculous

I have 11 freshly dumped MGP 2yo Bourbon barrels for sale. $125 each plus shipping. Buy 4 or more @$100 each. PM me if interested. They are Speyside Cooperage.

$42,000 or best offer I'm selling my used 60 gallon Kothe Pot Still, It is currently single phase, but we can return it to it's 3 phase state if you prefer that. It was originally wired that way and I had it converted to fit my rural electric system. It was built in 2010 and used for three years by Watershed Distilling in Columbus Ohio and then I got it in 2013, I didn't get it hooked up and running until summer of 2015. I am a very small distillery so I only ran it 6-8 times a month at most and this past year 4 times a month. It is a Bain marie style still using a hot water bath to heat the distillate by conduction through the copper pot. It has a 3 plate column on top and a CIP system which is fed from a hot water holding tank under the condenser. It comes with the agitator and motor as well as the pump for the CIP. This is a great little still, I am only selling it as my electric company has decided to change my classification and the increase in cost is simply too great. It is over 300% higher to keep running this. I am currently running it on one element at a time to stay under the draw for the new rates. I am changing to steam which powers my Mash tun, stripping still. Please email me at rick@isantispirits.com. Do not message me through the forum as I don't check the old email associated with this very often.

I’m also interested. Can you PM me the dimensions of its footprint and it’s height? Rick

It is Bain Marie. I’m holding off on a retro fit to see if I can find something similar to the Kothe I currently have.

I recently got the bad new my Kothe 250L 60 gallon electric still is drawing enough power to change my commercial class and I'm about to experience an almost 1000% increase in electric uses. Gotta love local energy monopolies. So I'm looking to buy a small steam powered still to take this electric one offline and pass it on to someone who can use it in a different energy jurisdiction. If you are planning an upgrade and thinking of selling a small one let me know asap. Rick 763-333-6447

I’m looking for an attachment to move barrels from horizontal to vertical on pallets. Does anyone know if something made for this. Doing it with forks and my brute strength is more difficult than I want.

I’m looking for a small Genio or iStill for sale to turn my heads and tales into something useful. email rick@isantispirits.com

Do you still have the DMA? I am interested. PM me Thanks Rick

Okay, So here area couple of other details to answer some of the questions you guys have 1) Energy to the still comes from a 500K Steam Boiler. It only services this unit. 2) Steam Jacket covers 75 percent of the Still Surface. 3) Cooling water is ground water from a well at 55F/ 13C running at 70 PSI I could easily put in some strips to the 1 inch columns for the time being. I looked at the latest pics Joe put up of his condensors and they appear to be just like my pictured design in terms of tube size and configuration. I could put some baffles in for water turbulence as well. That is a good idea.

Okay, So I have built a still from a design a friend come up with inconjunction with Custom Metalcraft using one of their 550 gallon bulk tanks. I sent a schematic for a column and a condenser based on what could easily fit in the corner of the top of the tank to a great local fabricator. So this has a 4 ft x 8inch column with a still dragon dephlemator on top which goes over to the 6 inch by 4 ft condenser via a 3" pipe. When I originally designed it I took a shot in the dark and ran (7) 1 inch by 44 inch tubes evenly spaced down the middle. I did not do any calculations other then generally looking at the ratios of the columns to condensers on Carl's and Vendome's and took a best guess. Needless to say to make this work, it runs very slowly on stripping runs. I started out at about 12 hours and began to push it. My best time was around 6.5 hours and typical is 7.5-8. I had to slow it down because my distillate began to run hot and things started coming out of the vaccuum break on the parrot. I know that is not a lot of detail, but my thought is to go back to the fabricator and get a new condenser with the layout of tubes in the picture below. I did do some surface area calculations on the tubes. Right now I have (7) 1 inch tubes, 44 inches long with a total surface area of 1627.36 square inches. If I go to the configuration below, I will have (21) .5 inch tubes with a combined surface area of 2935.8 sq/inches. Basically 1.5xs the current surface area. If I add tubes where the x's are, I will get an additional (16) .5 inche tubes for a total of 5172.6 sq/inches or 2.6xs the surface area. So, based on this 550 gallon still, 8"x4 fit column with dephlegmator (plumbed from top of condenser), 6"x 44" tube in shell condenser I get this question: Which of the two 1/2 inch pipe configurations will give me the most bang for the buck. Is the surface area of the 21 tubes a sufficient gain/ correct for size, or should I add the extra tubes? Is there a diminishing return for too much surface area and volume taken up by the tubes compared to the volume of cooling water within the shell? I hope this makes sense, and someone with some design savy can help me out. Thanks, Rick

For those waiting on a response, This is the rule currently being used for the statment from the TTB. § 19.52 Restrictions on location of plants. A person who intends to establish a distilled spirits plant may not locate it in any of the following places: (a) In any residence, shed, yard, or enclosure connected to a residence; ( On any vessel or boat; © Where beer or wine is produced; (d) Where liquors are sold at retail; or (e) Where any other business is conducted except as provided in § 19.54. Above (d) clearly states you can't have a DSP where Liquors are sold at retail. Luckily for me I have two other buildings I can use for this purpose so we are choosing to remove the tasting/sampling/retail space from the DSP. I have also been told that if you charge for the tour/tasting that is the same as selling retail. If you are not charging for the sample/tasting or selling, bottles at retail you may be able to do that. I won't go into the research I did throught 19.54 as you can all follow a chaing of this applying to that in the code.

So I just got this from the TTB agent reviewing my application: 3) A DSP needs to have complete physical separation from the sampling/tasting area for both bonded and general premises because it will most likely involve the retail sales of alcohol which by law cannot be done on distillery premises. This would require a separate entrance from the outside and 4 walls around the sampling/tasting area. The sales of most other merchandise can be done on distillery general premises. It needs to be treated as a completely separate business. On the diagram I don’t see that the tasting bar has its own entrance. I have been in a number of distilleries where the sampling and retail bottle sales are in the same space as the distillery with no other separation from the production facility than a pony wall or caution tape on floor or some similar deliniation. If you have accomplished this would you care to share how you got TTB approval for this. Feel free to PM me. Thanks for you help in advance.

Someone please explain to me the cool down before dumping? All the way to 140? Are there specific conditions where this is needed as it was not the practice in many distilleries I've seen? Doesn't this depend on whether your drains are metal or plastic, if you are pumping into containers to transfer stillage to a farmer etc? Just curious what the rationale is here.

Good question

sent you a message. Rick