Quirk

We are looking for quotes for the following stainless steel tank sizes: Capacities (quantities): 10,000 gallon net (2); 5,000 gallon net (2); 1,000 gallon net (5) ASME dished/flanged heads 18" Outlet height 304 Stainless steel Top Head fittings: 3" triclamp for mushroom vent, 2" triclamp for inlet, larger hole for mixer Shell fittings: 1.5" triclamp ferrule for level sensor, manway Bottom head fitting: 2" triclamp outlet Single wall, no heat transfer needed. These are for beverage alcohol, not hand sanitizer. We are interested in best quality for price, not necessarily speed. Please email quirk@cardinalspirits.com with quotes or follow-up questions. Thank you, Adam

Thank you so much Starcat for the much needed belly laugh. I had no idea Russian trolls had infiltrated the ADI Forums, but here we are!

Sorry if this had been covered - the search function may not have been working when I tried looking through older forum posts on my phone before posting. To reiterate what some other have said, and add my own thoughts: Don't try to sell this stuff. We're using it in our tasting room because our county is sold out. Pay taxes on everything, always. Never use heads in anything that will touch a human. Methanol and humans are chemically incompatible in every possible way. I did speak with the manager of a high-volume corporate pharmacy today about sanitizer. He has received no word from supply chain that more is on its way, and asked me personally to deliver a few gallons so that he and his staff could refill the pump dispensers at their POS stations. It seems clear that hand sanitizer should be a last resort after washing with soap and water, and just avoiding contact in the first place. But if we're going to sustain some level of normality, it seems sanitizer can function as a security blanket if nothing else. Thanks, AQ

Aloe is pretty expensive, and was currently unavailable in Bloomington. The general point of the post is that you can use any emollient, just make use of what is available to you. And while 60% is a good target, better to err on the side of more ABV and target 70% in case of measurement errors.

Hi everyone. We made up a batch of hand sanitizer from GNS because Bloomington is completely sold out. I wrote up our recipe here, and would love you're input on this: https://www.cardinalspirits.com/thedrop/hand-sanitizer-recipes We’ve seen other distilleries talking about using heads for making sanitizer. While this is probably a fine idea for sanitizing non-porous non-coated surfaces, it’s not smart to use on human skin. Methanol is bad for us, which is why we remove it in the first place, right? Anyhow, here are our recipe ideas… Hand sanitizer is simply alcohol + emollient (skin softener). First, here’s a good explanation of how alcohol mixes with oils. And here is what we’ve done: 10 Liters of GNS at 95% ABV 2 Liters of mineral oil 1.5 liters of RO water (any water would work) You need to shake this up pretty good for it to dissolve. And unfortunately, it does come out of solution. We recommend you tell your guests to shake it up before using to redistribute the oil. The basic recipe is 10L of GNS with 3.5L of some kind of emollient. This nets 14.5L of hand sanitizer at 70% ABV.

Hello all, I'm looking to purchase a 2-3yr old Irish whisky. Initial order QTY will be 800 gallons, we're ok with barrels or totes. Total annual volume is likely 2,500 gallons. Please email quirk@cardinalcopacking.com. Thanks, Adam

These are all really thoughtful responses folks. Very valuable information. This thread should be pinned! There has never been a sales forecast in history that was accurate. Never. They are all wrong, always. The question is how close can you get. My uncle rides a motorcycle. He says there are two kinds of riders: those who have wrecked, and those who will. You just have to prepare for the pessimistic forecast, but strive for the optimistic one. And enjoy the ride.

Here are a couple articles about how we did it: http://www.cnbc.com/2013/11/22/forget-happy-hour-how-to-own-your-own-distillery.html https://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/12/10/start-ups-turn-to-the-crowd-for-financing/?_r=1

Hi all. We are gathering interest for a seminar this Summer. Please have a look and let us know if you're interested: http://cardinalspirits.com/business-of-distilling We've been in business for 2 years, after 3 years of planning. During an intensive 3-day seminar we will open our financial records to you. We will skip theory and dive into actual numbers. We will cover startup costs, fundraising failures and successes, tasting room financials, distribution financials, equipment costs, build-out costs, marketing costs, labor costs, and actual revenue. We firmly believe that if we had access to this information before we began building and purchasing equipment, we could have saved a hundred thousand dollars or more. Please, come learn from our mistakes, and our successes! Where: Cardinal Spirits, Bloomington, Indiana When: June 2017 (dates TBD) Cost: $2,000 person + $1,500 each additional team member. Price subject to change. No deposit required at this time. We are in the planning stage of this seminar and as such will not require a deposit or commitment until date and cost are official.

6. Be sure to thoroughly research the manufacturer and talk to as many of their past customers as possible. Check to see if there is any pending or past litigation against manufacturer.

Yeah sorry @3d0g, I haven't given up, just had to focus on other things. I do want to share what I've learned. I need to make time for it.

Hey everyone, just wanted to throw this out there for any of you who aren't yet open, or maybe just want to read about someone else's journey towards building a distillery: http://cardinalspirits.com/spirit-trail/ I'm writing a paragraph or so every weekday about things I've learned so far. Hopefully it helps someone else out. Best, Adam

Hi all, is there any way to download the signed copy of an approved Transfer In Bond application from the TTB permits online website? I can see the copy I uploaded before it was approved, but need the one that is signed by the director.

Hi David - for another distillery we can sell them at $7.75/glass. If you order 50, we can come down to $7.60. 100 and it's down to $7.45.

If you're looking for tasting glasses, we can help you out: http://cardinalspirits.com/market/whiskey-glasses Should be back in stock next week. If you're looking for other bar glassware, we are very happy with our orders from Zesco.com. Libbey and MCIC are both great quality at reasonable prices. AQ