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  1. clearwaterbrewer

    Poll: Do you clarify your molasses

    we use blackstrap and we heat to 200F, dilute, mix, and settle/clarify while covered and cooling, then rack and pitch 24 hours later. Here are samples taken right after thorough mixing and set for 24 hours... The one on the left had the molasses heated to 200 before adding water, the one on the right was only heated to 160, and you can see the growth, which takes the pH to 3.0 in days, kills the yeast, and causes a green distillate
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    Whitestar yeast

    where does one find the optimum temps for whitestar yeasts?
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    Question About Spirit Definition Legalities

    thanks for the support guys... I ended up getting the two with formulas aback as approved in less than 48 hours, then the two without formulas(same image files) came back a few days later... I think someone was just grumpy or not 100% up to snuff on rules.....
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    2x30bbl tanks for sale

    where are these located?
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    Question About Spirit Definition Legalities

    I am going around and around with the 'specialists' at the TTB... They are saying my 'Brand Name' for a Class-Type 414 Florida Gold Rum cannot be 'Palmer's Tropical'... (keep in mind I have 5 COLA's approved with just that, we just want to update the labels to a new front and back label..) First they wanted it to have a formula to explain 'tropical'... After stating the steps and results from the "Do I need a formula?" for Rum, they backed off of that and came back with 'Tropical is misleading' as it is not the name of our distillery. (do they understand what a brand name is?) I tried to explain that it was just a Brand Name, but they were not having it... They said I was misleading the customer because I did not show the relationship between Cotherman Distilling Company, listed as the distiller and bottler on the back, and 'Palmer's Tropical' on the front... So I sent them the COLA approval for Weller, which says Weller on the front as the Brand Name, and if you look at the approval details, "Weller" listed in Part 1, line 6 as ... yes... the "Brand Name"... They are saying: "the name Palmer Tropical is misleading because Palmer's Tropical is not the bottler for this product and does not appear on your permit. The words "Bottled For" must precede the brand name on front label so that the consumer is not misled by the true bottler." I am biting my tongue.... It is a Brand Name, Dammit! I just wish I tried this a few months ago before the survey they sent expired... boy they will get an earful next year!!!!! In the background, from the beginning, I submitted a formula for 'Tropical' Rum using at least 51% molasses from south Florida, defined as having a 'Tropical' climate, and mentioned in the method of manufacture 'distill to a spirit that retains 'Tropical' flavors of Rum... It was approved in a few days, and I resubmitted new application and attached the formula...
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    Ice Machine / Ice Maker?

    interesting video on how they are made and operate...
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    spirit scales

    I just bought an eBay one, and the PS-IN202 display unit actually dropped shipped form prime-scales... so you can rest assured that the same model is available for less and was 1lb away on a measured 2130lb shipment from what the shipper weighed, I am completely happy with my $425 3'x3' 2500lb NTEP floor scale. Now, making a formula to do the calculations for % v/v to proof gallons... that is my next task
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    Reuse Glass Bottles?

    yes, the adhesive trade name would be much appreciated!
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    custom sieve plate manufacturers

    Looking to know if someone knows of a manufacturer of custom sieve plates. Looking for 10-20 or so single pass plates like these in a document on The Vespiary. (the ones in figure 1(A), but with 203mm diameter, ~5mm holes, 15% open area ), and prefer a manufacturer that has already built and tested such things.
  10. is it steam or bain marie? does it have heating elements for the oil bath? please PM pics
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    Dephlegmator Control

    I use a sestos 4-20ma analog output PID with the Johnson controller, but it is only celsius, I eventually found an omron E5CN-C2TD, but have not installed it... complete writeup here: https://www.stilldragon.org/discussion/914/automating-reflux-condenser-water-flow 100% happy with the control of it.
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    stormtrooper 750ml - who makes it?

    OK, anyone have a clue who makes it and how I get a pallet? https://www.thefowndry.com/products/original-stormtrooper-decanter
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    class/type 'Whisky Specialties'?

    OK, if you make a flavored whisky/whiskey, logic would seem to say you would create a formula for Class/Type Flavored Whisky and when you did the label you would pick a formula of the Class/Type 'Flavored Whisky'' I have one COLA for this class/type in for approval, but after my headaches with flavored vodka label, I do not expect it to get approved first time.. However my little experience in the real world shows that does not seem to be true.. An existing product we all know of (COLA 10146001000306 ) uses the fanciful name of 'cinnamon whisky' and the Class/Type of 'whisky with natural cinnamon flavor' on the label, In the actual COLA it says Class/Type is "Whiskey Specialties" and in the COLAS documentation, I see "641 Whisky Specialties" 1 - There is no actual formula class/type entry for that 'Whisky Specialties', only for "Distilled Spirits Specialty", is there a link or direction from the TTB that says this correlation exists? 2 - do DSP's generally shy away from 'flavored xxxx', and just use DSS? 3 - Does this allow one to skip the BAM requirements for wood chips? It seems to... but 'whisky' is on the label of the DSS product in two places... From the BAM: 8. TREATMENT WITH WOOD · DISCLOSURE “COLORED AND FLAVORED WITH WOOD _________” (insert chips, slabs, extracts, etc., as appropriate) is required on labels to indicate treatment with wood · APPLICATION Applies only to whisky and brandy treated – other than through contact with oak containers – with wood: -In any manner or form, either directly or indirectly, e.g., chips, slabs, extracts, etc. -At any point during the production or storage process, up to and including the time of bottling
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    Barrel Aged Gin formulation/cola

    if you make gin without using other finished spirits such as GNS, (aka - original distillation), you do not even need a formula... here is my 'Oak Barrel Gin', distilled from malted malted barley I have 'Barrel Rested Gin' in for approval, but expect kickback since they seem to have become more finicky in the past few months. https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicDisplaySearchBasic&ttbid=15299001000367 https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/publicViewAttachment.do?filename=Half Mine - Oak Barrel v2.jpg&filetype=l
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    TTB COLA's being much more picky lately?

    and now another label kicked back saying to remove 'with other natural flavors" from the line below 'Pepper Flavored Vodka'... no mention of why I cannot put that in there.... It has already been kicked back once because 'vodka flavored with peppers and other natural flavors' was misleading.... I wonder how Crisco gets away with a picture of fried chicken or cherry pie on the label?
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