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  1. Roger

    Stripping still wanted

    Yes, already in motion. Was just reaching out in case someone was in the market to move up or down in size.
  2. Roger

    Plumbing question: is this normal?

    As previously mentioned, that is a standard for any sink in a bar / restaurant, as it keeps anything from coming backwards up the drain, into your sink. Typically there is a large bell/flange fitting on top of the drain pipe coming up, which acts as a bit of a catch basin for momentary overflow when draining.
  3. Roger

    Stripping still wanted

    If anyone is looking to upgrade, and has a used 250-500 gallon steam jacketed still, we are in need of one. Doesn't have to be pretty.
  4. Roger

    American Single Malt Whiskey

    Bluestar & Indy - thanks for fighting through the insanity ! Prost
  5. Roger

    American Single Malt Whiskey

    Actually scotch can't be called scotch or sold as scotch until it is at least 3 years old. So the NAS under 3 years isn't applicable. This unlike US Whiskey wherein it can be brought to market and sold as "Whiskey" at any time under 4 years old, provided it has an age statement. Of course the reality is the US "Craft Market" is flooded with under 4 year old whiskey being sold with NAS because the TTB is not enforcing complaints against blatant offenders. Note to self: if you have had your DSP for under 4 years, you should use the age statement on your Whiskey. If not because you are afraid of being caught and fined by the TTB, at least because otherwise you are acting like a Sleezebag.
  6. Roger

    GNS Cost and Availability

    If he had, he could still get an approval for that statement, I believe, if he specifies that the GNS is itself distilled from 100% grains. He can not get a legal approval for an NGS based vodka/gin unless he declares on the label some derivation of "contains __% Neutral Grain Spirits for the segment of NGS therein. Period. No nuance, no special process, no special sauce will change the requirement. The number one craft in our industry seems to be crafty labeling.
  7. Roger

    GNS Cost and Availability

    Can't help but ask: how did you get a COLA approved that says "Distiled 100% from Grains" when you clearly acknowledge that your "Craft Vodka" is actually 75% source NGS ?
  8. Roger

    Heads and tails when using NGS

    I quit
  9. Roger

    Heads and tails when using NGS

    Ok, not to beat a dead horse here but, when using NGS to make vodka, there are really two ways to do it. 1) Just reduce it close to bottle proof, filter it any of several way, add your flavor, sugar, citric (if applicable) then reduce to final proof and bottle. 2) Add some water to NGS so you don't blow up your building, put it in any type of still from a Kurig , to a 1000 plate nuclear powered column that is slightly shorter than the troposphere , warm up the mix and it will come out exactally as it was when you put it in. No heads, tails, hearts, or magic beans will come from your efforts, so it will be impossible to identify these non existent segments. However you can say you distilled it. Maybe the best way would be to do "simulated cuts" . Just pull the first 2% of the warmed up NGS off into one container, then segregate the next 70% into your hearts container, then run the remainder into a tails container. Just use the hearts for your Vodka. The next day, dump the heads and tails into the next batch and repeat the process. Should work out pretty well. Either way you are still required to state on the bottle (Contains 100% NGS) Prost
  10. Roger

    GNS Cost and Availability

    The entire topic of how changes in state laws over the past 10 years have allowed for the expansion of craft distillers is to absurd to even comment on. Move along Indy, you are usually less obtuse.
  11. Roger

    GNS Cost and Availability

    Onerous state laws basically prevented small distillers from operating. Grow up.
  12. Roger

    GNS Cost and Availability

    Put simply, NGS vodka is ordinary. It is not good or bad, it is just ordinary. It's been sold off the bottom shelf of liquor stores for years, and out of millions of bar wells. It is essentially a commodity with no margin. Meanwhile independent small distilleries are now legal in the US and are growing at a reasonable rate, made primarily possible by said distilleries being able to charge a premium price for their products, to consumers who appreciate their sense of craft and efforts. In between that is the Fakillery. The flood of pretend producers who tout " our grains are grown right in our back 40 and harvested by disadvantage Amish who then grind the grains with a horse operated mill...." What they don't tell the consumer is they are talking about the 4 barrels of whiskey they put away for 10 years from now, while 99% of their revenue stream is really just dumping NGS in bottles, some with drops of flavor and sugar, which they then charge a craft price for. so yes we are here to make money, and if you are a re-bubbler, than you are welcome for our helping to allow you to charge an exhorbinate price for a disingenuous product and process. Prost
  13. Roger

    GNS Cost and Availability

    Explain what ? That's like asking someone to prove a lie. If you want to ask a question, ask a Fakeillery to explain the process of how they remove the "heads" from NGS and then every actual distiller on the planet will knock off their "secret process" for themselves.
  14. Roger

    GNS Cost and Availability

    Sorry, but it is absolutely false that commercial NGS has "heads" that can be removed by a common column still. That is a complete fabrication invented by the re-bubbler's who want to pretend that they are actually doing something to the product. In most cases the re-bubblers can't even remove the impurities from the water they add to keep their facility from blowing up. Paul - you make some great equipment, but don't try to undermine the actual distilling industry by adding fake credibility to the re-bubbling scam.
  15. Roger

    GNS Cost and Availability

    True dat. However I was referencing the much more valuable craft, handmade "pot distilled" option. Its the closest to a Coffey still, 90% of the current crop of distilers will ever get.
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