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  1. Get your Federal Permit? How long did it take?

    May 16th 2015. Aproved July 1st 2015. At the time the average processing time was around 130 days give or take. I posted earlier on this same post about that time. Have you talked to your state inspector, Elaine or Cheryl?
  2. Get your Federal Permit? How long did it take?

    Killbuck, you've already submitted to the state, yes? As soon as you're federally permitted you can begin making liquor. Feds control production, state controls sale. Also ask your inspector about the provisions for excise tax reduction from 40% to 8%. You can apply it to anything except whiskey.
  3. Get your Federal Permit? How long did it take?

    My application took 45 days. Would have been sooner but the regs for filling out the bond changed just after I submitted & I needed it reworked. Anyway, I established a contact there just by emailing & calling the same agent with questions. She was very helpful and pretty much hand carried my app, requested to review it for her super & bam, done. My DSP is also on residential property, was told it needed to be 50ft minimum from structure & also fenced.
  4. Ohio Tax Code

    You guys are missing it. The complicated math is the wholesale case computation...Monique Beasley at the state computes that for you. She's the pricing control supervisor. The state tax is 40%, plus County tax, based on retail price. Of course, fed tax is separate as well. You can set your price wherever you want, but it will need to be inline with similar products. Fees after permit are $50 per listing...each package size as well, but no $300 fee if you are an A3 or A3A permit holder per Cheryl Hunter, Operation assistant supervisor. On top of that, if you go thru the state warehouse there are handling fees which are listed in the bailment manual. I'm assuming the Op already figured out the correct answer long ago, but just clarifying for future reference.
  5. Get your Federal Permit? How long did it take?

    TTB permit filed May 26, approved July 1st Cola..2 days First Label...18 days, with 1 minor correction
  6. Old post, but did you ever get an answer? If you didn't know, someone in Indiana had a label approved for unaged and aged products. Here's the link for one. Search the public COLA for "sorgrhum." I think the brand is no longer available. https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicDisplaySearchBasic&ttbid=11314001000147 BTW, I used to work in Pittsboro for HydroTube from 1998-2000. Kind of miss the place.
  7. Micro-Distillery in building attached to a residence.

    I am sort of going through this now. Here's a little back story: My DSP is located on my personal, residential property. I was told by a reviewing agent before I submitted the permit packet 2 things: First, direct from the email: "§19.52 Restrictions on location of plants. A person who intends to establish a distilled spirits plant may not locate it in any of the following places: (a) In any residence, shed, yard, or enclosure connected to a residence; So, essentially, a residential property should not contain a Distilled Spirits Plant. However, we deal with these on a case-by-case basis. Also, once we receive and “perfect” these applications that are on a residence, we internally forward them to our Regs and Rulings Division for an opinion." I was told that the building containing the still had to be a minimum of 50ft from my residence. The reviewing agent said this was an absolute must, no exceptions. ^See above, case-by-case note. Now, being in a multi-use commercial property is a whole other animal. Mine is a single family home in the country surrounded by corn. Second: For this to be approved, I had to construct a fence around the DSP building to create a permanent, defined, distinguished boundary between my private, personal yard, and the general premises of the DSP. My packet has been passed up for legal review, in my 2nd week of waiting. I'll tell you though, call TTB and straight up ask your question. They're friendly folks who'll give you a straight answer. If there is a way to make what you want to do work, they'll be able to tell you how if it's possible/permissable
  8. Start-Up Budget?

    My encouragement came from a guy that started for right about $10,500. I think he unofficially claims the title for lowest cost start-up from scratch, but I know there's a ton of other folks just like me. If you own property (I think the feds like 2 acres at a minimum if your house is there,) you can do it. Regs say it can't be on residential property, but they look at each case individually. I had to add a fence to surround the DSP to distinguish the boundary between that and my yard. My rural setting helps immensely. Like I said, my nearest neighbor is 1/4 mile away.
  9. Start-Up Budget?

    I'll play. I already own my building/property so that alleviates a lot of the cost. I'm using 20 and 60 gallon traditional pots-no fancy columns, plates, or stuff like that. And, being in Ohio, I have to say we have one of the friendliest small business climates there is. I'm running a one-man show, incurred no debt to date, and I don't mind being small for a while. It's a legal hobby that I can enjoy and make a little money while I'm at it. I plan to quit my day job within 5 years. That said: State fee was = $204, which allows up to 50 gallons/week of alcohol. I won't hit that, but micro it's $2 per 50 gallons + $100 base. I needed a goal. LLC/DBA registration = $175 Background Check at Sheriff's office = $45 $20k bond = under $150 Township variance = $200 Stills = under $2000 in parts/materials (helps to know how to work metal) Building improvements = about $3000 - electrical, fence, plumbing upgrades, driveway improvement (again, helps to have the tools and knowledge) Label applicator & bottle fillers, Enolmatic, I I built a plywood jig for labelling--about $500 Certified lab equipment-$200 (Avogadro's Supply in NJ sells certified hydrometers and thermometers for much less than every other place) Miscellaneous containers, buckets, fermentation tanks, etc = probably $500 I'm pending right now with TTB & of course state, but the state inspector's already been out and said I'll have no problem getting him to sign off. I live at least 1/4 mile from the next nearest structure, and clear open farm ground all around me. Should be hearing something this week. If I ran 5 days a week, I could make about $2000 a week profit selling at +/- $30 a fifth. BUT...you need a market that support's that quantity regularly. We can't all be Jack Daniels right out of the gate. If I had to guess, I'm probably the cheapest startup on here, under $7000, maybe $7500 total because I forgot something. I didn't mortgage anything and bought things only when I could pay cash. I didn't hire a lawyer, I talked to other guys doing the things I wanted to do and they helped me out. I called TTB and established a relationship with an agent. They fast-tracked my packet through rfeview since they were basically checking their own work. I know I'm the rare exception, and some on here may laugh that I'm buying mason jars at Walmart for now til I can save up for a pallet of bottles. I don't worry about paying a loan for the business, I don't have any partners to answer to, and I control my own future.
  10. Intro from Ohio

    Hi Mike I'm in NW Ohio myself. You guys licensed yet? Didn't see you on the liquor control pages. Mine's pending right now, hopefully only a few more weeks.