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  1. kelbor

    30 gallon new barrels for sale

    Do you still have these?
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    Distillate Off-Flavor

    And stop using sulfur tablets for Christ sake! You need to be clean but can be pretty far from sterile in the distilling world. Ha!
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    Distillate Off-Flavor

    I am by no means claiming to be a master or even close in the distilling world so take what I say with a grain of salt..... but I do it a bit different than you. I start the same - mixing hot water (just use city water but its real good city water) with corn flour with some high temp enzyme. Bring it up to 190 and cook for several hours (adjust PH to 5.5-6). Then drop temp below 150. Adjust PH (using citric acid) to 4.5-5 and add second enzyme (no rest here). Continue to crash cool to pitching temp. When I get close I grab a gallon of mash and combine with a few gallons of water (at the right temp -just barely warm) to re-hydrate my yeast (the bit of mash adds a bit of sugar but not so much as to explode the yeast). When the yeast bucket forms a good head I knock it back and add it back to my now cooled mash. Goes to zero in three days or so. I then strip (grain in wash) in a pot still cleaned the same as you (hot PBW water, Hot water rinse, hot citric acid water, hot water rinse). I strip down to 10% or less at the parrot (with the heads and tails from last likker run). I get a 55+/- gallon drum of 30-35% low wines from 275ish gallons of distillers beer. Several strip runs later I likker run it. I do get copper crap and crud if I don't clean the still well enough (I usually rinse while hot with hot water between stripping runs and then clean real thorough before a spirit run) Good luck
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    Culture growing in my bottled rum?

    Thanks team! I'm not getting what I would call haze. Its super clear after bottling and super clear after sitting on the shelf - Time in the bottle is creating a settled "cloudy/gooeyness" that rises into suspension when agitated.... So you think slow proofing rather then tighter cuts may be the issue? I do cut a bit more liberal on the tails side (not to wet dog/musty paper liberal though) as I was trying to capture a bit more flavor and figured barrel time would smooth it out a bit.... I have been toying with the idea of slow proofing and now I guess I have a reason/experiment to actually implement it.
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    Culture growing in my bottled rum?

    I agree...It really does look like saponification. We distill on to two barrels at a time so hopefully this is a isolated case of pulling too much fatty acids from the tails. I do run a doubler on my still, during the rum spirit runs, in which I place the first portion of tails from my previous spirit run. This fraction is approximately 75%ish ABV down to 30%ish ABV (hearts is 83%ish down to 75%ABV). This could be increasing the amount of fatty acids in my finished spirit regardless of the cut points perhaps.....
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    Culture growing in my bottled rum?

    Hmm..I tried to follow that article but it seemed outdated, antiquated, and downright inconclusive. I don't use caramel to color my rum (which it seems they focused on) and Im not sure where you get "cautionary" as they found no ill affect of the supposed organism in studies. Am I missing something?
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    Culture growing in my bottled rum?

    No bottle cleaning method deployed (yet). bottles are at 40%
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    Culture growing in my bottled rum?

    I cant get a good one on my cell phone...Ill grab my good camera and try to take one tomorrow. Here's what I have now...
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    Culture growing in my bottled rum?

    Hello, Just had a customer return a bottle of rum that has what appears to have cultures growing in it. This rum was barreled at 125 proof and then filtered through .5 micron filter, cut to 80 proof with RO water and then bottled. I have inspected the rest of the bottles on our shelf here in the tasting room and see similar floaties (though it appears to be settled to the bottom before being jostled). They appear similar to cultures that can grow in Listerine says the customer (I have never really gotten into using that stuff so can verify this). Is this anything anybody else has experienced? Could it be dangerous to health? Thanks!
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    Barrels for distillations

    http://www.bascommaple.com/search/drums/ This is who we use. Way less expensive than Bubba's but you got to find stainless bungs separately. The ones that come on them are zinc or some shit. I use plastic drums for lows that I get for $10 bucks at the local bulk foods re-packager. I felt concerned until I got a several free plastic drums from a local limoncello maker that that contained organic NGS. They are marked with a "2" on the bottom I believe which is how the drums from the food re-packager are marked (same as the plastic handles of alcohol and even everclear in the liquor store).
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    How do I get my neglected copper clean

    I run everything through my pot still - Molasses based rum wash, strip wheat wash for vodka, ciders and wines for brandy, grain wash for whiskies. I usually (though not often enough) do a water rinse followed by a hot PBW re-circulation for 20 minutes (pumping backward through condenser and then back out of pot). This is followed by a water rinse and then followed by the same procedure with a citric acid rinse but with cold water and citric acid. Not sure on the acid concentration - I usually just shoot for "sour" tasting. Less than lemon juice sour (probably PH of 3.5ish). What P.H. should I shoot for? Pot is stainless and is pretty clean but Pot dome, cap, and lyne arm up and over to condenser (condenser is stainless) is copper. My water is just normal water (not RO). I'm thinking, from reading your response (thank you by the way) that I need to do a really good HOT (140-150 degrees F.) PBW rinse and then HOT citric acid rinse (I have always done cold citric). I don't feel like there is any 'soil' per say, but I suppose there may be a layer of organic material creating dirty copper. Not sure if I have copper sulfate issues..what do you mean by this? Thanks again!
  12. That's right. I've been too lazy with my cleaning regime and the inside of the my pot still is way dirty. My usual PBW rinsing followed by citric acid water won't bring back the shine. Even with elbow grease and a scrubby sponge. Suggestions?
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    Sediment in finished bottles

    Dang, really sounds like the water is the culprit. Try bottling a few at cask strength (with the same filtering regime) and see if you still get that settling. Start eliminating variables....
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    Sediment in finished bottles

    How long ago have you changed your RO filters?
  15. Looking for a 5 gallon bourbon fresh dumped barrel for a small experiment. Thanks!
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