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  1. Direct Fire Heat Up Problem

    Hey Everyone! I wanted to keep this thread updated with our changes in the hopes that it may help someone else. We brought back the bricks with a large opening in the front to pull in air. The vent is still attached, but we are considering a dampener in the future. We got the hoses to handle the heat, but there has been a delay with the pump. It's pretty frustrating as I'm sure many of ya'll are familiar with delays. As a stop gap, I am depending on a small still to get us enough rum to keep our tasting room/cocktail bar open. Also, I am stirring the wash in the still until about 170 degrees then I seal it up. Not ideal, I know.
  2. Direct Fire Heat Up Problem

    Thank you so much Ned! We talked about the putting the bricks back. I think we have a good idea how to do it. Mrjayce is my business partner. Thank you everyone for your input. This week has been stressing us pretty hard. We are moving forward with circulation and may add some heating elements and some other ideas suggested here. In hopes that other's will be helped by this post, I'll update it later with our changes. James Hye Rum
  3. Direct Fire Heat Up Problem

    The was started at about 80 Degrees Fahrenheit, but it was a pretty cool day. The goal is to not run it at full power on the heatup, so we shouldn't be using 68% of the propane on heat up. That being said, we want to connect a pipe to a larger tank. We are running the propane at full blast when trying to get the initial boil going. We are using the quarter turn on the rig to control the flow. I agree we probably need something more precise. 120 Gallons. I want to thank everyone for there help. Agitation is something we are interested in perusing, but after we figure out what the current problem is.
  4. Direct Fire Heat Up Problem

    I'm distilling Rum. Would this be a problem? The mash has the viscosity of a wine. So, the mixer moves around the heat in the still, helping it heat up faster? Interesting. I thought mixers were for grain spirits to prevent scorching.
  5. Direct Fire Heat Up Problem

    We've been in contact with Ward and they have been very helpful. I've attached pictures of the flame and just sent them to Ward. Mark at Ward has given us some good suggestions, but we are looking for other perspectives. Don't think I have the time/fuel to do a heat up with water. What information would this provide that I haven't given? Maybe I can figure it out without the time/expense of doing that.
  6. Direct Fire Heat Up Problem

    Good Afternoon Everyone, Our distillery got permited in mid February, we distilled in earlier March and realized that we were very inefficient. Our heat up time was 3 hours and overall run time was 7-8 hours. Production was paused and we sought the advice of Ward Burner and made a lot of changes. Now our heat up time is 4-5 hours. We are very perplex as to what the issue is and would love some advice or ideas. Below are the details: The still is housed in a 12x6 foot metal shed. Initial Set Up: X11 Burner placed at about 11 inches from a copper plate between the still and the burner. The burner was connected to a 100 pound propane tank via 1/4 inch flexible connection. This is not ideal, but we are working on moving propane tanks and trenching the property. Our Regulator is Fisher LOC870 Type: R632A-JFF Bricks are stacked up to past the Manway. There are spaces in back to vent gas and spaces in the bottom of the stack to let air in. The flames didn't look great. Our Modifications: Removed the copper plate between the still and the burner. Had a combustion chamber built. The chamber is about 36 Inches in diameter with a bottom and a hole cutout for the burner to project flames into. We have it lined with ceramic wool for insulation. I've tried the burner at different heights from the bottom of the still. 11.75 inches, 11 inches and just under 10 inches from the bottom. The vent is an non-insulated 8 inch stove pipe and has no vent cover on top. We have changed out the 1/4 inch flexible connector for a 3/4th inch. The flames looked pretty good. In insulation seems to be working as it is much cooler in the front and only hot around the stove pipe. We aren't sure what the problem is. I know we need to get hooked up to a bigger propane tank, but that doesn't explain the efficiency getting worse. The problem is perplexing and we really need an outside perspective. Thanks, James
  7. Newbie with a Brandy Question

    Felo, The reason there isn't a brandy available in your area might be that it doesn't have demand. Sometimes there is a reason there isn't a provider of a product. If you make a brandy and try to make it taste like a whiskey, it will still be shelved in the brandy section. So, I'm not really sure you will see much benefit. If you want to make whiskey, you should probably make whiskey instead of making brandy. I'm not sure what you'd call " characteristics of whiskey," but I'm guessing you are referring to over oaking. If that's the case, then please, don't do it. Brandy is a great spirit that needs to have it's fruit expressed. Cheers, Turtle
  8. Rum Cake & the TABC

    Thanks for the feedback. We think you are probably correct. We'll get in touch with the TABC to verify how that process might work. Cheers, Turtle
  9. Rum Cake & the TABC

    Hey Everyone! My business partners and I have submitted out TTB paperwork a couple months ago and are getting everything else in order. We will be making rum and have access to some great baking equipment, so we are debating making and sell Rum Cake as an additional item. In Texas we are able to sell on site up to a legal limit. My question is, if we use our rum to make cake, does that alley to the limit? The alcohol is baked out of the cake, so is that destroyed product? If so, are we taxed on it? Anyone using their spirits to make a food item? Any advice or ideas are welcome. Thanks, Turtle
  10. Flavoring with oak spirals

    I believe Defiant still uses Barrels, they just added Oak Spirals to increase the intensity of flavor. My guess is they are using older neutral barrels.
  11. Equipment Woes

    This is one thing I've always worried about. I've been collecting equipment for my distillery for the past 2-ish years. Trying to not get stuck on something being late. Hang in there!
  12. To heat or not to heat?

    Red, Are you talking about heating this mash during fermentation? I ask because it seems that the answers you are getting are about the initial brewing of the mash and it is unclear (to me) what point of the process you are referring too. Cheers, Turtle
  13. Costing out time spirits aged in the barrel

    KRS, While Bluestar's answer is more straight forward, you really should consider a lot of what Mash has said. Just because you price it high, doesn't mean it will sit on the shelf. I don't think most of us are getting into this industry to become marketing experts...but you kind of have too if you want to survive/thrive. Cheers, Turtle
  14. Newbie Rum Run Question

    Brewder pretty much lays it out, but I'd disagree on one note when others. Rum fermentation does not have to be hot. I've fermented plenty of rums in the 70's. It largely depends on the yeast you use. Some yeast like it cooler then others. The idea that rum has to run hot is largely due to the idea that most rums come from hot climates. Cheers, Turtle
  15. Reuse Glass Bottles?

    Can't tell you about the legality, but I know Great Lakes Distillery used to reuse their vodka bottles: http://www.jsonline.com/business/120429664.html Turtle