majorvices Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Having issues with my first attempt at Gin. I have an 18 plate bubbler and a 4 plate whiskey column.When I make my gin I make it like I do my vodka. I run through the entire still(whiskey and vodka plates- total of 22 plates, as a spirit run after a stripping run.) I run the vodka through a charcoal filter to polish it. It does very well and is a solid, very clean vodka. The problem is when I filter the gin I lose the bontanicals. The first time I packed the filter like I do the vodka and when it came through it literally smelled and tasted like vodka.I pulled out 2 thirds of charcoal and ran it again.Not much botanical loss but definitely an "unfiltered" flavor. One suggestion I got was to filter my "vodka"first then run it through the gin basket. But I really didn't want todo that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silk City Distillers Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 You don't charcoal filter gin. If you want to treat your neutral with carbon first, go right ahead, but you simply can not do it after you infuse the alcohol with botanicals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernhighlander Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 majorservices Do you run through your gin basket then plates & dephleg or through your plates & dephleg then gin basket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majorvices Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/20/2019 at 6:38 PM, Southernhighlander said: majorservices Do you run through your gin basket then plates & dephleg or through your plates & dephleg then gin basket? The basket is last, after vodka defleg and before condensor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernhighlander Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 22 hours ago, majorvices said: The basket is last, after vodka defleg and before condensor. Good. That's what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delta H Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 On 1/19/2019 at 9:33 AM, majorvices said: Having issues with my first attempt at Gin. I have an 18 plate bubbler and a 4 plate whiskey column.When I make my gin I make it like I do my vodka. I run through the entire still(whiskey and vodka plates- total of 22 plates, as a spirit run after a stripping run.) I run the vodka through a charcoal filter to polish it. It does very well and is a solid, very clean vodka. The problem is when I filter the gin I lose the bontanicals. The first time I packed the filter like I do the vodka and when it came through it literally smelled and tasted like vodka.I pulled out 2 thirds of charcoal and ran it again.Not much botanical loss but definitely an "unfiltered" flavor. One suggestion I got was to filter my "vodka"first then run it through the gin basket. But I really didn't want todo that. The point of charcoal 'filtration' is adsorption (surface binding) to remove 'contaminants' from the liquid phase, which could be nasties left in the vodka - or it could mean the oils from the botanicals in your gin. So, don't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majorvices Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 On 1/26/2019 at 12:10 PM, delta H said: The point of charcoal 'filtration' is adsorption (surface binding) to remove 'contaminants' from the liquid phase, which could be nasties left in the vodka - or it could mean the oils from the botanicals in your gin. So, don't do that. Yes, I understand that the filtering process is stripping the flavors from my gin. I'm trying a couple additional stripping runs first before running through the gin basket. Going to lower the ABV in the pot and skip the bubbler plates for final run and add additional botanicals to the pot and see if that solves the problems. Thanks for the suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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