crazyhorse67 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Hello, My name is Doug and I'm a rookie. We are about to open a Distillery in "Canada" in a local wine growing area. Our idea is to take advantage of the locally produced grape pressings (when available) to make some of our products. Are low wines stable enough to store, if oxygen is minimized? or will they "go off ". I was thinking of renting additional stainless tanks during this time for storage. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestar Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Depends what proof, of course. Generally, if over 40% ABV, you should be fine, especially in sealed stainless. Not that resting long periods might not change things, just that it shouldn't be a negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyhorse67 Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 I was thinking of low wines around 20-23% abv. What then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fldme Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Should make no difference as long as they are sealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlevac Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Interesting. So let's say you have a 50gal SS barrel that has 20 gal of low wines, the fact that there is 30 gal of head space won't oxydize the low wine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fldme Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 It might oxidize and Help the taste some. oxidation of wine and low wines which have been distilled are two different animals. In spirits, you want to and there is no reson not to encourage oxidation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smaug Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 I have to agree. It might oxidize and Help the taste some. oxidation of wine and low wines which have been distilled are two different animals. In spirits, you want to and there is no reson not to encourage oxidation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silk City Distillers Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Check out the Letina or Enotalia closed wine storage tanks or the variable capacity tanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silk City Distillers Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 You can probably rig up a co2 purge system for the closed tank pretty inexpensively. The variable capacity has a lid that has an adjustable height to vary capacity and headspace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrounge Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Yeah those Letina tanks from St Pats are awfully affordable too, when compared to most other manufacture/brokers. You can get an 80 gallon on wheels, variable capacity, sample port, bla bla bla for just a bit more than a brand new stainless drum in 55g !! I'm guessing the variable capacity ones might not be good for high proof with the rubber gasket system in the lid? Guessing? Nice closed lid ones for that though. Scrounge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSmateo27 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Yeah those Letina tanks from St Pats are awfully affordable too, when compared to most other manufacture/brokers. You can get an 80 gallon on wheels, variable capacity, sample port, bla bla bla for just a bit more than a brand new stainless drum in 55g !! I'm guessing the variable capacity ones might not be good for high proof with the rubber gasket system in the lid? Guessing? Nice closed lid ones for that though. Scrounge The Letina tanks are a pain to use and do flex after a while, but work just fine. Even with higher proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fldme Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I have found the seals in a VC tank lids with not stand higher proof. There are better options, and I would def avoid St. pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Haas Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 The Letina tanks are a pain to use and do flex after a while, but work just fine. Even with higher proof. What do you find painful about the Letina tanks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Haas Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I have found the seals in a VC tank lids with not stand higher proof. There are better options, and I would def avoid St. pats. What are some better options than the Letina tanks, for a comparable cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fldme Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Talk to glacier tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Haas Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I'm familiar with Glacier and they're good to deal with. However, their closest comparable tank costs about $4/liter, vs. $2/liter for the 165 gallon tank that St. Pat's sells. The glacier tank also doesn't include any valves, while the Letina tank includes 2 butterfly valves and a level gauge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestar Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 We are happy with the Letina tanks for storage of either low wines or spirit. Used the closed, not variable, units. No problem with our shipments from St. Pats. Only thing we did was replace the plastic fill gauge with a glass one from McMasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boognish Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I've had no issues with the lentina's tanks from st pats. Although the valves kinda suck. I swapped those out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedgeBird Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I purchased this Letina tank for bottling: LETINA Closed Top Tanks--Conical Bottom— wine storage / ZR 620 / 620 Liters / 165 gallons I then filled the tank, marking every 5 gallons on the sight glass. I topped out at 154 gallons filled to the brim. So do you think this Letina tank is smaller than the advertised 165 gallons, or is my volume calibration off? Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boognish Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Hard to tell but I would lean toward faulty calibration. Try calculating the volume as a cylinder. It should be within a couple gal of actual size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natrat Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Betcha the people advertising it didn't have the energy to calculate the true volume of a cone...and that's probably where the 10 or so discrepancy came from. Then again, what did you use for volumetric accuracy with your water? Typically, I use a volumetric flask, which is why it takes me so d**n long to calibrate my gauges. One quick dodge is to paste a tape measure strip beside/on/behind your manometer and have a chart that shows you how much volume you have at what measurement. It's a good place to use metric, too....millimeters are so much more linear than fractions! Works well because you can have a conversion chart for each tank. I used this on a fleet of 60 HL conical fermenters...despite all coming from the same company, the volume of the tanks varied considerably, with the largest holding almost 64 gallons more than the smallest at the dish weld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedgeBird Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Hard to tell but I would lean toward faulty calibration. Try calculating the volume as a cylinder. It should be within a couple gal of actual size hard to calculate its volume based on measurements what with the man-way and sloped bottom and all. Ill give it a try tomorrow with the old sewing tape measure though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedgeBird Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I used a cheap plastic flow meter to measure the volume of my water.. (you can see the thing in the photo I posted attached to the hose) I did/do not expect it to be perfect, but I tested it at 5 gallons and it was spot on. I would not be shocked if it was off, but would be if it was 10 gallons off over 145 gallons.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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