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  2. We also have a 2x column vodka still that we're trying to get running correctly. 100ish gallon kettle with an 8" packed column directly on top, deph, and then going into a 2nd 8" packed column which is significantly above the liquid level. Originally the 2nd column just had a U-bend before dumping into the pot above the liquid level. We modified it so that there's a 3/4" line running below the liquid, and we added a vent hole to the 90 above the liquid level. The problem we're having is that when running the 2nd column the still surges, probably similar to what's happening in Mors9s st
  3. Hello, we are opening a new nano distillery with a 150 G hybrid pot still , 150 G mash/tun and 3 x150 G Fermenters. Our village water averages 12C , has 490 hardness, with calcium carbonate, pho’s, 1 PPM chlorine almost 0 chloramine, some Fe, pH=7.4 my water plan so far was to soften and UV it then into condensers/deflags , then hit through IV and into black HDPE insulated (hot tank)then into mash/tun and clean up. If no water in hot tank then ,softened/UV into instant hot water boiler and out to mash. Also, softened/UV into RO for proofing/blending Any suggestions? Impr
  4. Hello, we are opening a new nano distillery with a 150 G hybrid pot still , 150 G mash/tun and 3 x150 G Fermenters. Our village water averages 12C , has 490 hardness, with calcium carbonate, pho’s, 1 PPM chlorine almost 0 chloramine, some Fe, pH=7.4 my water plan so far was to soften and UV it then into condensers/deflags , then hit through IV and into black HDPE insulated (hot tank)then into mash/tun and clean up. If no water in hot tank then ,softened/UV into instant hot water boiler and out to mash. Also, softened/UV into RO for proofing/blending Any suggestions? Impr
  5. Mors9 To gravity feed correctly you must have your condensate return connections in the column bases high enough above the liquid level in the pot to overcome the back pressure created by the level of liquid in the trays (its amazing how many still builders don't know this). If you have 23" of liquid total in all of the trays in your columns, then the lowest that the condensate can be at the bottom of the column is 24" above the top of the mash level in the pot. We go around 3" higher than that for good column condensate gravity feed back into the pot. If your column bases are too
  6. Like New Race manual labeler, works great additional pic's on request high quality perfect for smaller distillery operation, $850.00 includes shipping in continental USA. Cheers ! Lorenzo
  7. Hmm yeah thanks. Gives me some stuff to look at. We just had the returns redone as separate returns because they were plumbed together originally. There are no vents or traps... But it could possibly be that the connectors are not air tight. So I'll start there at least.
  8. That all sounds fine to me. The last thing that I can think of checking is if there are anti-siphon holes drilled either in the elbows just inside the boiler or just below them. If there are anti-siphon holes but no U-bend seals in the drain pipes immediately below the columns it could cause a problem. If you have anti-siphon holes then you should also have U-bend seals. From the spurting behavior and the vapor bubbles in the returning wash it really looks as though there is vapor getting into the return lines. If there are no anti-siphon holes or other openings above the liquid level
  9. Hey Skaalvenn sounds like you have the perfect set-up to me! What boiler did you get to run those stills? Make, model, size? I imagine it was a pretty big investment. Thanks, David
  10. The downtubes are roughly 28 inches long. So they extend about 25 inches below the liquid level (when full.) They enter the boiler about 3 inches above the liquid level. Once the piping enters the boiler it just does a 90 degreen elbow and straight down into the liquid. Roughly 3 inches away from the sidewall. The entrance point for the drain at the bottom of the columns is roughly another 5 inches above the return... so a total of about 8 inches over the liquid level. We do not have any pressure measurements. Not sure how to take them.
  11. How far do the return pipes project under the liquid level in the boiler? Are there any U-bends or seals in the return piping inside the column skirt (i.e. in the section of pipe that cannot be seen in the video)? How far above the boiler liquid level is the entrance point to the drain pipe at the bottom of each column? Do you have any pressure measurements?
  12. My advice to all is to always get your local issues settled before your begin to consider federal issues. My experience is also that those who came to me for advice and assistance have not incurred any objections from state and local jurisdictions. And,. because we are talking about multi-use buildings, I am talking about urban areas. To be clear, I am not saying some have not been denied, , or even that a majority have not, etc. because I do not know. Maybe nine out of ten times the fire marshals turn thumbs down or the local development agency responds, "You gotta be kidding," but I've
  13. Here are some videos of the issues we're having. Along with a trace of the return piping. https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1cpeg5V18yqvERPz2s_NdmYw26BU3Xptk
  14. Thanks for the replies. @Stumpy I'll check out the pics and solution for sure. Glad to hear I'm not just crazy and others experience this issue as well. @meerkatThanks, I'll read up on that thread. Our columns are above the liquid level in the boiler typically (Unless we really really fill the boiler up to the manway.)
  15. My assumption of a No was more about code and local jurisdictions approval. Don’t know if picture you posted is of the actual building or one like it but fire rated partitions like walls and floors would be the factor I think in getting approved. More than likely the floors are wood and wouldn’t meet a one hour barrier at a minimum and and cost to do so would be way more than you will want to spend. Stairwell would need to be rated as well, unless there is one on the outside of the building for emergency use but but that’s just a guess. Is the building sprinkled? So many life safety issues to
  16. Has anyone worked out yet why we are getting condensation in the neck of our bottles. Quite a few theories put out there but no definite cause that I can make out. Would really appreciate any help with this problem.
  17. This is a common problem in still arrangements like you have. The solution proposed by @Stumpy's will solve the problem but you may get away with a less complicated arrangement. In the photo posted by Stumpy's the base of the second column is below the liquid level in the boiler and it was essential to use a pump in his case. If your columns are sufficiently above the liquid in the boiler you might not need a pump. A similar problem was discussed in https://adiforums.com/topic/11969-return-line-to-pot-question/ where the photo shows the column bases higher than the boiler. In that threa
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  19. Hi, I've got about 10 totes and the other chemicals to make hand sanitizer for sale in San Francisco. They're in IBC totes. Our hand sanitizer production dropped off considerable. I think I paid $7.00 a gallon including shipping. As I said I also have the hydrogen peroxide and glycerin if you're still in hand sanitizer production. Drop me a line if interested.
  20. Take the reflux returns off the pot, run the reflux through a little cooler down into a sump then pump the reflux back into the pot. Make sure there is a check valve at the base of each column and on the pressure side of the pump. We had the same issue and fixed it this way. That still is actually for sale in the peer-to-peer board if you want to take a look at the piping...or what you can see of it from the pic anyway. Hope this helps. Cheers! Adam
  21. Hey, We have a 1000L steam jacketed still with 2 12 inch columns. They are run in series meaning the vapor path of the first column enters the bottom of the second column and then exits the second column and enters the condensor. Each column has a deflegmator with the water run in parallel. Each column has a return pipe in the bottom for the reflux to return to the boiler. This return pipe dips down below the surface of the wash in the boiler. The issue we're having is the refulx return in each boiler pulls wash into the boiler and doesn't allow the refulx to return to the
  22. Caustic is corrosive to brass and copper. I believe most people use PBW from five star to clean proteins.
  23. A paddle flow meter with a totalizer will work. They work best with pumps that have a smooth flow without much turbulence (flexible impeller, RPD, or centrifugal). You must ensure that there is relatively straight path in the run-up to the meter itself. No elbows or twists. We sell flow meters from Burkert, and include a length of stainless Tri Clamp spool for the entrance and outlet that match the manufacturer's recommendations for straight, hard-piped tubing to the entrance of the meter.
  24. Happy New Year, ADI Forum users! Seguin Moreau has been developing a new toasting/charring process unique to our company that is getting rave reviews around the country for bourbon and whiskey production. We have developed a process whereby we toast the barrel first, getting deeper penetration into the staves and extracting a greater quantity of vanillin and other lactones beneficial to spirits aging. We then Char the barrel to the distiller's specifications rendering, at a minimum, double the vanillin and lactone extraction of charring alone. This process is helping distillers get
  25. Apologies if you think I said you told anyone to violate. I certainly do not think you did and I certainly did not intend to say that. Let me expalin in a little more detail the reasons for my concern. I think that this is not an individual pursuit, which you know from the efforts you put into getting what you wanted. My point is that, since the law is not clear about what is included in processing - that is why I asked if you had evidence of intent - the provisions of regulation will determine what will be construed as processing and what will not, and that persons who have a horse i
  26. low concentration caustic solution, about 2%. How do you clean your copper still?
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