Jump to content


  • Posts

  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won


Patio29Dadio last won the day on June 11 2020

Patio29Dadio had the most liked content!

Recent Profile Visitors

2,710 profile views

Patio29Dadio's Achievements

Active Contributor

Active Contributor (3/3)



  1. The legislation gives additional relief to a list of NAICS codes for "hard-hit" small business... but since Distilleries, Wineries and Breweries are considered NAICS 31 - Food Manufacturing - they are not included and do not have access to that additional relief. This is a damn shame.
  2. This is why I always vote for the candidates that promise more and bigger government. sic.
  3. Like many smalls getting started, we thought it was special to hand-write the batch and bottle number on each new finished spirit product we produce. Tasting room customers like it... it absolutely connects to the feeling of craft, hand-made and artisan. However, the batches are getting big and we will move into 3-digit and then 4-digit batch numbers soon. So the hand-writing is becoming a big PITA chore. One suggestion is to pre-print the "bottle number" when the labels are produced... and then hand-write the batch number. My employees are a bit against the pre-printing as they say it looks "too corporate" for a small craft distillery. One idea they have it to just write the batch number and skip the bottle number... basically have a batch number space on the bottle label but no bottle number. I think this is a reasonable idea. Anyone out there with thoughts, ideas, recommendations?
  4. So we are surrounded by plum orchards. They are for prunes. We have made a run of Slivovich last year, and it was/is fabulous (not selling, but drinking). But you wrote "high proof". Are you looking for a neutral spirit from plum? I don't know that we would want to do that, but we can certainly produce a high proof plum brandy. What quantity? It is seasonable. I need to check with the local farmers for estimate for when the plums would be ready. Email me at jeff@patio29.com with more info.
  5. Uline sells single bottle shippers.
  6. Depending on what you are doing. If you are proofing for bottling then I recommend a rest of a few weeks or even longer if you have the time. It is really quite amazing how a long rest after proofing will improve the spirit as long as there is some head space in the container. Creeping up on a bottle proof helps ensure proofing accuracy, IMO. There is a thermochemical reaction with H20 and ethanol combining. It takes a while to settle down. This increase in temp is the reason that brandy makers will take months to proof for barrel entry, and then months for post aging pre-bottling. They don't what the chemical reaction to delete subtle qualities. Too fast proofing can also result in saponification... a soapy quality to the spirit. Sometimes a proofing rest will help mitigate that problem. We are in the business of waiting to get the best stuff in the bottle.
  7. It seems like that might be the case. However, I wonder if these are people that know they can make some money repackaging the bulk order. Puerto Rico and Haiti for example. I told them that I would only do the deal FOB... that they would have to pay for an take responsibility for the shipping. Two of them gave me a freight contact where I requested a quote based on the shipment dimensions and weight. The quote came back and I copied the requestor and told them that they would need to pay the freight and pay me in advance of the order being filled. If a scam I am guessing I will not hear from them again.
  8. Here is where we are... They want certificate of analysis for all ingredients or else for each batch. We talked them out of needing one for the isopropyl alcohol we use for denaturing because the SDS includes a paragraph that is enough of an analysis (basically they are needing proof that there is not too much methanol in the final product). You can only use the exact products in the recipe that the FDA allows. For example, we wanted to use inhibited proplylene glycol instead of glycerin/glycerol as we have a good supply of the former... they said a resounding NO! Need to have the process well documented. Need to demonstrate accurate proof measuring. They want batch records. The containers need the batch number on the label. Have to be registered with the FDA for the product. The registration number (LABELER CODE needs to be on the label.) This takes a few weeks. I am in California... the land of regulating everything.
  9. I am getting some requests for large orders to places like Puerto Rico and Haiti. They are asking for a freight quote and I get one but tell them I am only willing to arrange FOB sales. Before I move forward on this, I wanted to check with others to see if they have had any experience with similar orders. I am always suspicious. However, I do know that these places are in need of hand sanitizer.
  10. Only taxed on what you move out of the bonded area and it needs to be bottled. You can change the proof in the barrel with no tax consequences.
  11. They are coming back for a re-inspection. Which tells me that we have too many FDA employees with not enough to do. There are no politicians in my neck of the woods that will fight this fight... they are all made from the same cloth of big oppressive nanny government that are always here to help... right.
  12. Just got one. They almost forced us to recall. The reason.... we have the SDS for the GNS we are using but they wanted us to keep batch records and have every batch analyzed by a lab. So, they used us and now they are set to abuse us. I just told staff to cease and desist and when people call in to ask for the product tell them they can thank their government for screwing them over. Between the economic destruction from COVID orders, the continued restriction in state-to-state alcohol sales that are clearly in violation of the US constitution interstate commerce laws, and now this after the fact attacks on distilleries that tried to help (we donated over half of the hand sanitizer we made)... anyone feeling like they will benefit from political choices that increase the size of government?
  13. Passing the water through a UV light is not that expensive. You can find one on Amazon.com.
  14. I believe they are brokers. They don’t finance, only refer you to others that will finance. You might be better off looking for an SBA Community Advantage 7a loan.
  • Create New...