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  1. The legislation gives additional relief to a list of NAICS codes for "hard-hit" small business... but since Distilleries, Wineries and Breweries are considered NAICS 31 - Food Manufacturing - they are not included and do not have access to that additional relief. This is a damn shame.
  2. This is why I always vote for the candidates that promise more and bigger government. sic.
  3. Like many smalls getting started, we thought it was special to hand-write the batch and bottle number on each new finished spirit product we produce. Tasting room customers like it... it absolutely connects to the feeling of craft, hand-made and artisan. However, the batches are getting big and we will move into 3-digit and then 4-digit batch numbers soon. So the hand-writing is becoming a big PITA chore. One suggestion is to pre-print the "bottle number" when the labels are produced... and then hand-write the batch number. My employees are a bit against the pre-printing as they
  4. So we are surrounded by plum orchards. They are for prunes. We have made a run of Slivovich last year, and it was/is fabulous (not selling, but drinking). But you wrote "high proof". Are you looking for a neutral spirit from plum? I don't know that we would want to do that, but we can certainly produce a high proof plum brandy. What quantity? It is seasonable. I need to check with the local farmers for estimate for when the plums would be ready. Email me at jeff@patio29.com with more info.
  5. Uline sells single bottle shippers.
  6. Depending on what you are doing. If you are proofing for bottling then I recommend a rest of a few weeks or even longer if you have the time. It is really quite amazing how a long rest after proofing will improve the spirit as long as there is some head space in the container. Creeping up on a bottle proof helps ensure proofing accuracy, IMO. There is a thermochemical reaction with H20 and ethanol combining. It takes a while to settle down. This increase in temp is the reason that brandy makers will take months to proof for barrel entry, and then months for post aging pre-bottling
  7. It seems like that might be the case. However, I wonder if these are people that know they can make some money repackaging the bulk order. Puerto Rico and Haiti for example. I told them that I would only do the deal FOB... that they would have to pay for an take responsibility for the shipping. Two of them gave me a freight contact where I requested a quote based on the shipment dimensions and weight. The quote came back and I copied the requestor and told them that they would need to pay the freight and pay me in advance of the order being filled. If a scam I am guessing I will n
  8. Here is where we are... They want certificate of analysis for all ingredients or else for each batch. We talked them out of needing one for the isopropyl alcohol we use for denaturing because the SDS includes a paragraph that is enough of an analysis (basically they are needing proof that there is not too much methanol in the final product). You can only use the exact products in the recipe that the FDA allows. For example, we wanted to use inhibited proplylene glycol instead of glycerin/glycerol as we have a good supply of the former... they said a resounding NO! Need to h
  9. I am getting some requests for large orders to places like Puerto Rico and Haiti. They are asking for a freight quote and I get one but tell them I am only willing to arrange FOB sales. Before I move forward on this, I wanted to check with others to see if they have had any experience with similar orders. I am always suspicious. However, I do know that these places are in need of hand sanitizer.
  10. Only taxed on what you move out of the bonded area and it needs to be bottled. You can change the proof in the barrel with no tax consequences.
  11. They are coming back for a re-inspection. Which tells me that we have too many FDA employees with not enough to do. There are no politicians in my neck of the woods that will fight this fight... they are all made from the same cloth of big oppressive nanny government that are always here to help... right.
  12. Just got one. They almost forced us to recall. The reason.... we have the SDS for the GNS we are using but they wanted us to keep batch records and have every batch analyzed by a lab. So, they used us and now they are set to abuse us. I just told staff to cease and desist and when people call in to ask for the product tell them they can thank their government for screwing them over. Between the economic destruction from COVID orders, the continued restriction in state-to-state alcohol sales that are clearly in violation of the US constitution interstate commerce laws, and now
  13. Passing the water through a UV light is not that expensive. You can find one on Amazon.com.
  14. I believe they are brokers. They don’t finance, only refer you to others that will finance. You might be better off looking for an SBA Community Advantage 7a loan.
  15. Thanks. This is the type of answer I think I am looking for. Did you pay those as a discount to the wholesale billing, or did you get an invoice from the wholesaler to pay? Not that this makes much of a difference, but it would help me a bit in budgeting.
  16. Working with a prospect distributor that is asking me what brand launch incentives I offer. I told him I would get back to him. His general expectation is a 60-90 day program where I pay a dollar premium for product placement. One for on-premise sales and one for off-premise sales. So much for each #-bottle placement, etc. Interested in hearing from others for what they have done. I get the need. A new brand has more work associated with it to get on the shelf. Sales reps are motivated by compensation.
  17. Interesting. It can get a bit convoluted with the math for margins vs markup, but it sounds like you are doing a simple 40/30/30 based on the MSRP? So if you have an aged rum or whiskey with total COGS of $10.50 including federal excise tax and your target MSRP is $40 your price to the wholesale/distributor is $16 and your gross profit is $5.50. Assuming 30/30 wholesale-retail split their gross profit would be $12 each. Do I have that correct?
  18. This may seem like a dumb question, but I am considering being completely open about my pricing strategy with distribution partners I am courting. This includes my complete COGS and expected margins. Does anyone with experience on the wholesale side have any advice or recommendations for full disclosure vs holding more internal details private?
  19. I think one of our changes needs to be lower barrel proof. We have been doing 60% ABV. Took a recommendation from a pro producer using 30 gallons. Lowered the proof, left some head space and back into the barrels. Already noting the improvement after a month. Smaller barrel lower barrel proof? Don’t fill to the top? Seems oxygen is in shorter supply in the smaller barrels both lack of head space and lower ratio of liquid... thus more H20 and lower fill will help make up some difference. Interesting if this is the answer, as it means using more smaller barrels... which really starts t
  20. There is definitely a chemical reaction as adding water to ethanol will increase the average temperature of both when combined. Which brings up another question about the temperature of both for proofing. Colder or warmer? Warmer would seem to better facilitate integration. We proof all at once while agitating vigorously and then continue to agitate for a couple of hours. Nothing gets bottled until at least 4 weeks of rest... but generally 6-8 weeks. My problem with a multi-day proofing process is the risk of end proofing error. Spend several weeks proofing down to bottling proof...
  21. It is a value calculation. Some like to take several numbered measures of cut increments around the tails to blend the next day or two after some of the volatiles have settled. There is flavor and aromas you want from the early tails. Depending on the size of your distillation batch and the consistency of your process and outcomes, it can be difficult to nail the cuts during distillation. So you would distill deeper into the tails and save them off in smaller number containers from 1 to ??. Then you start with one and decide to add it to your collected distillate or to do something el
  22. I am in Nor Cal and have bunch of experience in this area with our two year build out. First, there is both building code AND fire code. So you will have two sets of officials that you will need to negotiate. Also, the building code and fire code are not in sync. For example, the fire code allows for the storage of casks filled with alcohol outside of the MAQ calc; however, the building code is at least nebulous here... and thus a building official can make your life hell by putting you into that higher hazardous material and occupancy standard where you will need sprinklers, containment,
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