Langdon Guenther

Sorry, I just noticed your request: Deborah Rossi 732-887-6781 beverageassociates@gmail.com

I'm retired from TTB's National Revenue Center (NRC) here in Cincinnati where I worked as a Regulatory Specialist. I processed new DSP applications and was the assigned specialist for many of the largest domestic distillers. I know TTB's application process inside out and charge a fraction of what over priced consultants and attorneys charge. I love working with craft distillers, who as small businesses are the job creators in America. Contact me at langdonguenther@gmail.com and/or 513-257-9378.

Are you still trying to get your spirits products listed in PA? I know a woman in NJ who should be able to assist you. Let me know and I'll give you her contact info.

As others have stated here, your rickhouse will be an amendment in PONL. The 10 mile limitation is not found in the regulations, but was "established" by a 1990 ATF internal memorandum. If you have a bond (probably not), you will have to execute and submit TTB Form 5000.18, Change in Bond (Consent of Surety). You will also submit a diagram of your non-contiguous premises and a lease agreement. I'm sorry you're getting different answers from TTB. There was a major "brain drain" when the Technical Advisors retired at TTB's National Revenue Center (NRC).

To be succinct, TTB requires monthly reports to be filed beginning with the month that your Basic Permit is issued. For example, if your Basic Permit is effective March 31st, you must file monthly reports for March and for all succeeding months that your permit is active. You must also begin filing excise tax returns by the required due date. If you are an annual filer, your excise tax return would be due by January 14, 2020 for the period January 1 through December 31, 2019. To respond to your original question: I am retired from TTB's National Revenue Center (NRC) and I know that to a sometimes large degree that your amendment's processing time (including terminating a bond) depends on which NRC specialist is working it. Contact me with any questions. Langdon Guenther

Hello Outlaw Pete - I worked with Jim at TTB. Phone me at 513-257-9378 to chat. Langdon Guenther

Hi Coach, I'm retired from TTB's NRC here in Cincinnati where all applications are processed. Question 1: You do not need a bond to receive spirits transferred in bond. Question 2: If you filed your original DSP application by paper, you'll have to mail a completed TTB F5100.16 to the NRC. The latest edition, 11/2016, is available at ttb.gov. If you filed your application using Permits Online (PONL) you will submit an amendment via PONL. It's pretty straightforward. If you have any issues or further questions, contact me at langdonguenther@gmail.com and/or 513-257-9378. A caveat: PONL filers will receive an approved TTB F5100.16 that has an edition date of 10/2009, instead of 11/2016. It's another PONL glitch that has not been fixed yet. This has caused some concerns and issues with DSP's that are shipping the spirits. Get your request in as soon as possible. Processing time on these requests at the NRC was recently 2-3 weeks. Hope this helps. Langdon

Hi - My name is Langdon Guenther and I'm retired from TTB. I worked at the National Revenue Center (NRC) here in Cincinnati where we processed permit applications for all 50 states in all commodities. I worked in the distilled spirits section. I can walk you through exactly what you have to do to terminate your bond because of the PATH Act and the lower FET rates and because you filed a paper application (pre-PONL). Phone my cell at 513-257-9378 and/or email me at langdonguenther@gmail.com and I'll be happy to help you gratis. Langdon

I'm retired from TTB and worked my entire time at the National Revenue Center (NRC) here in Cincinnati in the Distilled Spirits Section. In 1999, when I started working for TTB's predecessor agency, ATF, the NRC processed about 4 craft distillery applications for all 50 states. We all know about the exponential growth that was soon to begin. I answered many incoming phone calls from folks inquiring about the DSP application process. I would tell them that their premises should be "essentially complete" before submitting their application. An ATF Inspector was assigned to conduct a field inspection on all of those early applications. Most DSP Basic Permits were issued within 30-60 days. Processing times certainly have changed since my retirement from TTB. The most recent statistic shows 184.82 days for a DSP Basic Permit. One might say that a 6 month processing time is an impediment to business. I am an independent consultant now and I advise clients to get their application submitted 6 months before their premises are completely built out and ready for production, processing and/or storage of distilled spirits. You should have most of your major equipment ordered when your application is submitted. Try to get the serial numbers from the manufacturer. If they are not available yet, or if any equipment will not have a serial number, assign a serial number yourself. The best advice I can give folks is to check with all zoning authorities and fire departments to ensure that they are good with your proposed DSP premises and operations before signing a lease agreement or purchasing the premises.