John Bassett

Any information on that potential code change?

Absolutely agree. I got the same offer. $421.79 or $325 if we do a yearly contract. I already started saving off the excel and PDF files. We are moving elsewhere.

We have been using Whiskey Systems Basic and its been serving our needs. However, they issued a very large price increase today, starting October 1st. We are a nano and the cost increase is too much for us. What is everyone else using? We have been looking into Onbatch. I also was looking into trying to write my own module in NetSuite, but that would take a ton of time. I am also wondering if someone has some simple spreadsheets that they use to produce the TTB Reports. Our needs are simple. Please let me know your thoughts.

Did you make that? We could use a couple of those.

In the meantime, we're seeing very low demand for sanitizer now. We're back to making things to drink.

Yeah, those folks could get looked into down the road. We're following WHO directly. Anything other than that will require not only FDA approval, but TTB Formulas approval, from what I researched. That is a multi-month approval process with probable lab samples required. We just suggest to people that they put our sanitizer is sprayer bottles.

I would also be interested to know if the FDA has contacted any suppliers about having too much acetaldehyde. I would make sure to get a copy of the certificate of analysis prior to purchase too. See article below: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-cracks-down-on-ethanol-based-hand-sanitizer-hitting-supply-as-demand-soars/ar-BB13p3jR?li=BBnb7Kz

Disregard. I answered my own question. Guidance regarding transfers in bond. Under current TTB regulations, when DSPs want to receive either denatured or undenatured ethanol from another domestic DSP, the receiving DSP must submit an application to TTB for authorization prior to the first transfer and ensure appropriate bond coverage. See 27 CFR 19.403, 404. During the period covered by this guidance, for transfers of either denatured or undenatured distilled spirits between domestic DSPs, TTB is exempting DSPs from the requirements to request approval from TTB to receive denatured or undenatured distilled spirits from another DSP and to obtain additional bond coverage. Rather than submit such requests to TTB for approval using TTB F 5100.16, DSPs must maintain records of such receipts, which would include records of the information currently required on TTB F 5100.16. TTB is authorizing these exemptions under its authority in 27 CFR 19.28 to approve emergency variations from regulatory requirements.

A large ethanol producer is looking to sell me some 98% ethanol. I asked about doing a transfer in bond and he said that is not a requirement during the pandemic. I am thinking that is not the case and that I need the TIB. What are your thoughts?

So, basically you do not have to put that statement on your labels?

WOW, I just heard this too.

Does anyone know what happened to Whitestar? I met the president and he spent considerable time helping me with fermentation issues. I had been a loyal customer of them, but now it appears they are out of business.

Thanks @meerkat. Once again, you come to the formula rescue.

So, we are looking at 18.3 x .12 = 2.196 proof versus 4.2 for glycerol?

That is a very good question. FDA won't check labels on OTC products. They can get away with it. We're probably worrying way too much, but then we also have to answer to TTB.