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  1. Congratulations on retirement! If you are wandering around our way you are always welcome in for a drink!
  2. that is a great value in my opinion. Did you have to do anything special for venting for fire marshal approval? I would assume with no electrical and a metal structure it would be pretty easy to add "adequate venting" with a simple turbine ventalator on the roof and some floor level side vents.
  3. Thanks for the picture. That makes perfect sense. Are you going to have room for a third row? I am guessing that is a 20 foot container and not a 40’
  4. welcome Nick! I am just south of you in Washington. Once you get started i would love to make the trip up and check t out. you live in a beautiful area. Have you talked to Specific Mechanical, i think they are in your neck of the woods.
  5. would not discount the micro turbine option until you price it out for your scale. It was a couple years ago but i remember it being a surprisingly economic option per unit, especially if you can get some tax credits or other incentives from your utility. If you have a cool source like a pond or geothermal well you can use that with a heat pump style heating cooling system. Depending on the size of your setup you could even use condenser water or pond water through heat exchangers to heat/cool your production space. I think an in slab hydronic piping system could be used for heating/cooling from your process water and also use the building itself as a heat sink. this could greatly reduce your electrical load and make solar/wind/etc more economical. there are literally 1000's of ways to skin that cat but with all the heating and cooling going on in distillation t would be very easy to design a system to utilize as much of that heat as possible as long as you can make it flexible enough to accommodate your work schedule. I would think of it this way, f you have a big hot source from your boiler and a large heat sink (cool source) like a pond/geothermal well/ irrigation water i would use those two sources to do as much as possible before you put any more energy into your facility. I am assuming you mean using spents for feed or bio-digester because if you had a bio-digester i would put all fuel you can find into that for greater energy output.
  6. out of curiosity how do you get the second row barrels to the back? two long 4x4's and roll them in? also was there any venting requirements needed?
  7. another option if you want to be green is look into a co-gen type of facility. Sierra Nevada Brewery in Chico has micro turbines that produce electricity from bio gas (they have their own digester) or NG via the micro turbine then used the exhaust waste heat to have a supply of steam and hot water for the brewery. obviously there scale was a lot larger than yours but the equipment was very scaleable. the project would not have had a good ROI except there were some tax credits and incentives that helped make it favorable.
  8. When i worked for a process mechanical contractor we did a lot of equipment anchoring in many different jurisdictions. Everyone was different based on seismic zone, and the local jurisdiction requirements. I highly suggest using stainless anchors in a wash-down environment to avoid rust stains around the bases of your shiny stainless. the rule of thumb i was told by one structural engineer was that any stationary equipment with a center of gravity over 4 feet and 400 pounds should be anchored. this is probably worst case, as California and Alaska are the two worst states i have worked in for anchorage requirements. Also, Stationary is a key word as well. I have seen a lot of larger equipment such as CIP skids and pachaging equipment not be anchored if it was supplied with wheels or was listed as mobile equipment. I have seen a lot of variance in anchorage specifications based on the PE stamping the design. Some are very cautious and some are less cautious. I suggest making sure your structural engineer is very comfortable with anchorages of the type of equipment as a over cautious structural engineer can have a huge impact on the cost of that anchorage. Most jurisdictions will also be OK with the manufacturers recommendation on anchorage as well in lieu of having a stamping structural engineer calculate if you can get the manufacturer to supply the anchorage detail. I always told clients to try and get the equipment manufacturer to supply the anchorage details as it was usually cheaper than hiring a PE to calc locally. I ran into this with some Italian brewing equipment that came with anchorage details. most permitted anchorages have some sort of inspection, either active while anchoring for epoxy type anchors or after the fact torque tests from mechanical type anchors. Self performed work is usually less scrutinized than contractor performed work. PM me if you have any really specific questions. I have installed equipment in about 6 different states so far and they are al differing on their procedures.
  9. Subscribed. I too am planning a small farm distillery in Washington. I am in the Yakima area and zoned Agricultural.
  10. Thanks Alex, I figured the continuous column in my desired flow rates would be a fully custom design. I am assuming it will be using parts i specify from different locations. I will definitely share my adventures once they get moving.
  11. Thanks Alex. I am still working on those details but I will probably buy a small ready made unit to get started and then come up with an expansion plan consisting of some home built equipment and purchased components that are just not cost effective for me to produce. I am working with a greenfield project so I plan on sizing the building to have space for growth and space for additions in the future for additional growth. I really like the idea of using a stripping still and polishing still for maximizing output with minimal labor. I am also a big believer in data logging and automation to help with labor requirements and being able to run the equipment in a very consistent repeatable manner. In my previous experience I have done some work with continuous stripping stills and vacuum distillation for the separations of cannabanoids and I would love to dive into using that technology for beverage production down the road but I don’t think it is feasible for me at time of startup. I plan on starting up as a one man operation, so it will be a lot of boot strapping. Lucky for me I am also a decent tig welder and fabricator so I am capable of a lot but it all comes down to time and opportunity cost.
  12. Hello all! My name is Ryan and I have been lurking for a long time and I thought It was time to finally said hello. I am a Mechanical Engineer by training and for the last eight years my specialty has been food and beverage process integration and design. The majority of my experience has been in the craft brewing industry. I am currently living in Naches Wa, just outside Yakima right in the heart of Washington's apple region and have 10 acres of property right along Hwy 12. I am currently doing my due diligence into opening a small craft distillery on the highway frontage of my agricultural property, focused on making new and exciting things out of the abundance of apples grown near me. Thanks to all who have contributed to this forum. It is truly a wealth of knowldge. Ryan
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