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MG Thermal Consulting

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  1. Greetings and if you need any cooling assistance, give me a shout! (my son recently moved to Denver and is loving the outdoor activities and wilderness!)
  2. Yep and the chiller, cold water reservoir and pumps are being plumbed next week. Same size as my photo but chiller is rooftop with reservoir, pumps and pump/chiller controls indoors. Factory sending chiller start-up tech early January from TN.
  3. Welcome, I bet you have fun getting that mash crashed in the summer! You have a heat exchanger for it?
  4. Hey Bflo! Are you in NY or one of the Bflos out West? One of those setups was sold by Trident to a Distiller in Pittsburgh if you want to see it in action? I supplied the chiller for that one too.
  5. Per Pete's post, you still need the chiller system for cooling mash. If you can't get the mash done fast enough, it will become a choke point for production.
  6. I have sold many customers of Trident their chillers. Contact me if you need a price, new or recon available.
  7. That is more common technique when cooling with an external exchanger, but it depends on how much surface area you have in the fermenter jacket, if you don't have it all the way around, it's problematic.
  8. Devin, If you wish, contact me either by email or phone and I'd be happy to size one out after I ask a few more questions.
  9. The more efficient the heat exchanger, the more cooling you require, which is why I specify some kind of reservoir for everything except cooling with city water- but then this is so expensive, I specify a reservoir for that too, and for well water applications- hardly anyone has enough well capacity to run everything, too often the wells run dry. That way you can use a much smaller chiller.
  10. Tube in tube for whiskey, plate and frame for worts like vodka and rum are the least expensive and work best.
  11. When you strip faster, you need more cooling capacity (if you have a closed loop), so I have seen that being a problem.
  12. Congrats LJ! You'll get lots of support here! Great forum for news and help!!!
  13. We are adding a product line to enable treatment of air/water in atmospheric closed tanks. If you are running a still with well water, this product can treat water in your tank and then with adding filter, take out any biologicals or minerals within the water. Likewise, it will keep your process water tank free from bacteria. It is a type of Ozone generator/pump, drawing less than 3 amps with a timer for shutting down if not needed. Please contact me for applications or pricing.
  14. Website and email is on member info. list. mikegronski@gmail.com/ www.mgthermalconsultingco.com
  15. I have supplied Cooling System consulting and equipment to quite a few Cali distillers, mostly in San Diego and N. CA. You can drop me a line and we can start a conversation. Regards, Mike G.
  16. Trident has a still set up making whiskey, uses our chiller plus a glycooler (air to glycol fan powered cooler) to chill their reservoir for the cooling. Probably worth a visit if you can arrange one with Jess.
  17. My friend Jess over at Trident Stills will build you a great mash cooler, he's in your area code:)
  18. Greetings! If you have any questions about budgeting heating and cooling systems or sizing, let me know- I have clients in N Cali and San Diego if you are close to either.
  19. I have recon chillers which can fit in for either the existing or your new location. Several are 230/1/60 which is handy (largest one is 10 HP). Give me a call anytime, Mike G 678-773-2794
  20. Once you get to the larger tanks, 5000 gal or so, horizontal steel tanks are generally the way to go, but I have seen indoor 5000 gal poly tanks. Seems to be more and more common to see multiple tanks, equalized or controlled with solenoids to toggle back and forth, especially if running multiple mash runs/day pr mash runs and stripping runs daily. Shipping a 2500 gal like one pictured to IL with 40 HP chiller located on the roof. Tank is located below chiller with both process and circulating pumps. Pumps are run by subpanel at the pump/tanks station. If you can find a used dairy tank, I have clients that have used them successfully.
  21. If anyone needs a chiller/heat exchanger to crash - I have some refurbs in stock. Expect less than an hour crash with htx and chiller combo working from a cold poly reservoir. Mike G
  22. Andy, Even a hybrid air-glycol cooler cannot cool enough glycol to chill water to 50F in summer, and I have used them in Duluth, MN. A closed loop from a cooling tower means adding a water to water exchanger, indoor sump, pump, water makeup treatment and filtration. First cost seems smaller, but by the time you run this system for a few years, you see water makeup and treatments costs add up and wonder why the additional water and sewer costs are so high. Diverting warm water must done with non-Ferrous piping, pumps, evaporator from the chiller, so for every concept, there is additional equipment added, or modifications to equipment that result in a higher cost. Each capacity of each piece of equipment has to match up, capacity wise, which is why shell/tube mash coolers are used for large mash tuns- to account for small amount heat transfer relative to the chiller+reservoir concept. For given temperatures, the smallest capacity equipment will dictate time for cooling mash. If the given equipment can't offer you enough assurance though experienced suppliers, then ask for references from satisfied customers. I can offer hot water from a heat recovery chiller to neat 170F, but in order to make the hot water, you need twice (roughly) the chiller HP to do that plus reim cooler to take out hot refrigerant when your hot water storage is maxed out. It all depends on what is more important, water heating, quick turnaround on cooling or smallest first cost.
  23. Welcome and if you need any help on you cooling system, give me a shout! I have some cooling systems installed over by Waterbury, CT and over in Lancaster, PA if you're taking a drive this Fall to see the trees go to wine tastings;) Good Luck!
  24. Yep, I agree and sometimes dangerous with hot glycol or oil flying around in pipes (no more than steam, I suppose).
  25. Paul, That's the point I am, too, Paul. If I sell a heat recovery chiller to make hot glycol, it's still needs some electric heater add for a hot glycol tank, and that buries my price. I think the smaller distilleries should be able to work without a steam boiler, but it's a matter of making everything add together plus the cost payback on the utility that's the trick. Cheaper to buy gas for a boiler than the electricity input, especially if the customer doesn't have three phase power.
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