State38Distilling

All ten sold today.

Food grade stainless steel drums. Used for fermentation at a distillery. Great condition. Stainless steel lids are included. Upgrading equipment so these must go. 10 drums total. $50 each. $500 total. Buyer arranges pick up. Email Sean (at) state-38.com

Well, I REALLY need the space for my barrel rack and need to move this equipment. Everything works very well and was a great setup to get off the ground. I outgrew it, which says a lot about the quality of product produced from this equipment. One (1) 70 gallon column still - My cost was $12k total for the build of this still. One (1) 70 gallon pot/stripping still - My cost was $12k total for the build of this still. One (1) Rise Platform - My cost was $1500 for this platform 10 (10) 55 gallon stainless steel fermentation tanks with stainless lids - My cost was $2k total for these tanks Hoses, heating elements (4), heat controllers (4), cabling, and all the other small stuff needed for this distillery setup to run - My cost was approx. $2k for this. My total cost was approx. $30k, plus about 200 hours of my time in building the equipment. NOW OFFERING EVERYTHING FOR $15k! You can buy into the distillery business with enough equipment to keep up with 300+ accounts and a strong selling tasting room for only $15k. Not trying to sound "salesy" but I need the room and I don't want to put this into storage. This is a very good deal. *Additional pressure relief valve/equipment can be added at your request.

Motivated to sell this due to space for new equipment. $20k for everything. First come, first serve.

Doc - DIV rating and Boiler safety are two separate topics. Agreed. It was in reference to the P.E. stamp comment. A Process Hazard Analysis (PHA) can be done by each distillery for their equipment. A Hazard and Operability Study (HAZOP) can be done by each distillery. A Failure Mode and Effects Analysis. Layer of Protection Analysis (LOPA). And on, and on. These are specific for certain industries and are only expected when a certain threshold of hazardous/flammable/combustible material is present. So, with all due respect, I believe a SIL rating is not appropriate for boiler pressure, or "when something goes wrong such as clogging, plugging...." unless you are talking about the alcohol vapor release being the hazard, and more appropriate for the type of material you are working with, your fault tolerance, probability of failure and consequence of failure releasing that chemical into the environment. It sounds like you may deal with this type of stuff outside the distilling world, as do I, and I can assure you, I do not want the regulations associated with this for my distillery. Common sense and basic education should be the first line of defense. To get back to my point. The point is....this was a forum post for selling equipment. There were false and damaging comments made by at least one individual to that end. As OldSpye pointed out, some people are just not smart in the world and they are going to do not smart things. If the intent is to educate people to avoid potential explosions, then it was not done correctly by McKee and was in fact aggressive with false statements. That is dangerous to a forum such as this. I fully support safety and those who go the extra mile for it. We do. But I will not sit idle as someone attacks me with bold print and threats. There is no place for that here. That is all.

Considering this was supposed to be a thread for my equipment and was completely hacked by McKee and his insistence to force/demand his way or, as he threatened: "I will have you removed from this post and recommend nobody buy your equipment", I will repost my ad and start another thread for it. EB - Glad to hear you have the safety devices in place that you do. Never hurts to employ multiple layers of protection. Hijack away at this one. My original point to sell my equipment is toast and most definitely damaged by McKee and his false claims/statements. McKee - Get your facts straight before you start flexing your opinions on other threads. I will be watching you to make sure you are not bullying. Good luck trying to get support from the distilling community to have a still regulated by the feds classified as a "pressure vessel". Checking out your website, you may in fact be building DIV 2 stills with your process as these appear to be normally closed columns. Does your local Butte, MT zoning manager know you have a potential DIV 2 process? Also, there is ZERO mention of pressure safety on your website. You know, the website that you sell distillation equipment for. http://www.headframestills.com/. ZERO mention. I find it ironic that you hijack other folks trying to sell equipment with your specific PRV demanded statements, yet do not yourself describe anywhere these topics on your own website. Heck, there is no mention of safety at all with your equipment. If I made stills, then took on a mission to strongly push PRV safety in these forums, I would sure as heck make sure I have those facts stated on my own website.

Doc - The link I provided has to do with CLASS and DIV ratings. Which was a direct reply to McKee and his statement about having a PE stamp. You are making the claim, and so is McKee that a still is a "pressure vessel". You just wrote it in your last reply and McKee has referenced it in this thread as well. Let's talk facts here people. The implications you are making that a still is a "pressure vessel" can actually be quite dangerous to our industry in terms of permits, licensing, approvals, etc... More regulation in our industry? If you can provide a link to a document that states the specific legalities of a still being classified as a "pressure vessel" and therefor needing to be treated as such, I will happily admit that I am wrong and back down. A still is NOT a "pressure vessel". If you are arguing that it is, then please start another thread and ponder that question as you mentioned in your last post. Seems to me that would be a great thread for McKee to start up and moderate that discussion. Safety is of utmost importance. Facts are too. Telling people they have a BOMB, as was done by McKee in my case here is called fear mongering and goes too far, especially when the facts do not support it, which they do not in my case. This is damaging and the subsequent threats by McKee are called bullying. As more people get into the industry, you are going to see more and more injuries take place. We work in an inherently dangerous environment. Use common sense to clean your equipment appropriately. Test relief valves regularly if you have them. Ensure your vessel is not going to pressurize of you don't have PRV's in place. All electrical devices, including heating elements and their controls should be sealed for intrinsic safety. Use this forum to educate these new people. Don't scare them away with your bullying and fear.

Folks, To say that I am incorrect is, well, incorrect. Doc - It just so happens that I am an engineer as well. A petroleum and process engineer. Well respected globally in the oil and gas industry. You mention that my statement was incorrect. But you did not say what was incorrect? If you are going to call someone out, do so specifically and reference the facts so the rest of the people here can read and, most importantly, learn. A still (at least my stills) are NOT normally closed and therefor fall as DIV 1. A still is not "normally closed" because it has a big, open, copper pipe sticking out of it that keeps it close to atmospheric pressure during all times. If that still head were to clog, ie have glass or copper marbles shoved in it, then yes, I would agree you are testing the boundaries of a "normally closed" system which would fall to DIV 2 and would require a PE to examine with necessary PRV and other layers of protection in place. These are the facts. I referenced a link in the previous post if anyone, including yourself want to learn about CLASS and DIV ratings. McKee - I will reiterate that I find the pursuit of safety noble, but your approach is aggressive and uncalled for. I am sure anyone reading this would agree that they cringe when they read how you force yourself into peoples post in an aggressive way. Two times now you have made threats on this topic. Threats are not welcome in these forums. Saying that you know Bill and then threatening to have a post removed because YOU feel you are correct is dangerous to this forum community that people can not post facts without the fear of being taken down because they counter to your statement. The realities here people: A normal, well maintained still is a DIV 1 rating. PRV is NOT a legal requirement, nor is a PE examination/stamp needed on a DIV 1 vessel. THAT IS FACT. Now, if you feel that a PRV adds additional safety, and you want share your opinion on that with this forum, then do so. But do so with taste and not aggressively. Opinions are nice, and of course welcome. Facts are facts. Now that McKee has shat all over the original intent of my posting, I will say this to make the world right for all who have commented here. DEAR POTENTIAL BUYER: If you want a 15psi PRV on my stills, I will buy it, install it, test it for you. Safety is a very big concern for me.

McKee, First, my name isn't "Lenny". But that is a small oversight in a response that is absolutely ridiculous by you. I do not know who you are, but your "mission" to prevent the Silver Trails incident from happening is a noble one, if only you knew what you were talking about. Seriously, stop. Here comes some education for you buddy: -A PE stamp is only required for DIV 2 vessels. This is a not a DIV 2 class vessel as it is not normally closed and is open through the distillation column. A reference for you to read about Class and DIV. Please read up before claiming to know anything about that particular topic: http://literature.rockwellautomation.com/idc/groups/literature/documents/wp/800-wp003_-en-p.pdf -Run out of your house RIGHT NOW, because your copper pipes running through your entire home are....wait for it....90-120psi!! Yikes! That's a lot of bombs in your home. Even PVC pipe is rated up to over 150psi. So are your rubber tires in your vehicle, and on and on....you get it. You are dangerous to this forum community. False and misleading information for the sake of you trying to look smart is no place for this forum or any for that matter. Do not try to come up with some other smart response to this. You are wrong. Anyone on this forum can do their own research based on the facts I just gave. Give it a rest.

Hello Everyone! Lot's of great questions. First John McKee: -There are pressure relief valves on the lower copper head of the column still before the first plate. Preset setting at 60 psi. -The Hillbilly Column has no modifications. The stripping/pot still is a custom build. -All heating elements are enclosed in a rubber sealed enclosure, removed from atmosphere exposure. We have had a full fire marshal walk through of the equipment and passed. HedgeBird: -Thank you for beating me to the photo posts. The second to the last photo shows the stills in their current condition. Insulation around the stills has tightened up since the first photos you showed from when they were still in the fabrication shop and still being wrapped in the distillery. -That is in fact the platform to reach column controls and other access points on the stills. This is a OEM platform that conforms to the OSHA requirements for handle height, stair height, etc... -Those are indeed the qty 10, 55 gallon stainless steel fermentation tanks. They each have SS lids as well. ebstauffer: -The column still is a HillBillyStils column. The bottom portion (boiler/kettle) of the stills are custom built, and are not a "homebrew kettle" as I am not home brewing. These are vegetable oil jacketed with an oil pressure to atmospheric pressure relief built in. They also have a custom built internal heat disbursement U pipe inside that circulates the hot oil to the wash with greater surface area. -The stripping/pot still is all custom built and has changed since the photo's posted by HedgeBird. It is now water condense cooled, instead of air coil cooled on the condenser. The fabrication of the two 70 gallon SS boiler/kettle are what really took the most time and money. This is a unique setup. I only wish I had the opportunity to "buy in" to the industry for what I am asking. This is not a large production, multi state setup. This is a get-your-start and name out to grow into something big setup. That said, it has allowed us to grow into over 400 locations in the state and a respectable amount of tasting room sales to boot. I am proud of this setup and hope someone can find a home for it. Lenny: Here is a link to the new custom built still I just finished: -https://www.facebook.com/State38Distilling/photos/a.176015585931564.1073741835.106480826218374/406943996172054/?type=3&theater DEAR POTENTIAL BUYER: If you want a 15psi PRV on my stills, I will buy it, install it, test it for you. Safety is a very big concern for me.

Up for grabs to the first taker is a complete start up distillery. I have upgraded my stills and fermentation tanks to larger ones, so my original equipment must go. Two 70 gallon stills. Both with copper heads and stainless boilers. Both are electric heat to an oil jacket, so no direct heating elements into the wash. One is a pot/stripping still and the other is a 6 column still with gin basket and deflag. They both work perfectly and have produced amazing, award winning product for 3 years. Because of how great they work, our demand outgrew their production capability, which is why I built bigger equipment and must sell this startup equipment. I also have quantity 10, fermentation tanks. Each are 55 gallon stainless steel tanks with stainless lids. All the heating elements, heating controls, are included (there are 2 for each still) and only require a 220volt plug in for each (4 total plugs). Hoses and a OSHA safe rise platform to operate the equipment are all included as well. These were custom built with a lot of LOVE. Asking $25k for everything. UPDATE 10/30/15 - Price reduced to $15k to make room for new equipment. First come, first serve. Email: Sean(at)state-38.com for photos or questions. Serious inquiries only. I will remove this post when the equipment has sold. Buyer assumes responsibility for shipping, though I will load onto a truck for buyer.

Thanks Smoogdog. Yes, I remember our emails. Very sorry to hear you are having difficulty in permitting. I too look forward to your product in my liquor cabinet.

Hello Everyone. We finally received our DSP Permit from the TTB two weeks ago (received our Colorado Dept. of Revenue Alcohol Manufacturer License over a month ago). First day of distilling today to begin filling barrels for aging. Grand opening in two months. Long process, lot's of paperwork and unexpected costs but, all worth it when we bottle the first barrel. -Sean www.state-38.com

Thanks John. I received a quote from Race and they are much less expensive then the alternatives I have found.

Looking for a good working bottle filler. We are using 750ml Qbic bottles. A complete system for filling our bottles. Please email sean@state-38.com Thank you.

Looking for a bottle label applicator machine. We are using Qbic bottles from Saverglass (square bottles). Email me at sean@state-38.com . Thank you.

Looking for a bottle label applicator machine. We are using Qbic bottles from Saverglass (square bottles). Email me at sean@state-38.com . Thank you.