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  1. I went to DYE factory at the end of last year with my clients. Here are some points which I find out. They use thick copper materials which make sure that copper will not be out of shape when and after welding, since copper is more softer than ss304. I do really like the design of their bubble caps, all are copper and even the screws, the bubble caps are very easy to take off from the bubble cap plates, easy to clean, and no dead corners. The down comers are also not welded to the plates, again no dead corners. BEAUTIFUL VALVES, all valves used on the stills are stainless steel handles, looks really high quality and beautiful. They have their own thinking about the equipment, they told me when I was in their factory why they suggest to use ss flange since the spirits will not contact it, what they want to do is to make sure that the liquid and vapor contact copper as much as possible with a reasonable price. They do think for the customers! What I’m thinking about the kettles under the columns is that they will recycle the cooling water from the dephs and condenser to do cleaning; you see there is a CIP manifold connected to the all parts. And it can save space.
  2. Thanks for your reply. Not because of the weight. My pot is only 150L, the space on the top of my tank is only 700mm, and there is a 250mm steam nozzle in the middle, the factory said there is only 200mm left, which is not enough to put an agitator on...
  3. I wanna add an agitator on my small pot. But the factory guy tells me that the pot is too small which can not assemble an agitator on it. So I search on the internet and find a photo which the connection size of agitator is only 4", which is possible for the small pot.The point is that I do not know what it is look like inside, any of you have any ideas about this design? thank you
  4. Equipment For Whisky Distillation Output: 700 litre double-distilled whisky alcohol (from grain) at 40 per cent ABV in five days Equipment for Grain Mash Preparation and Fermentation Input: approximately 1,500 kilograms of grain for whisky • Grain milling – 1 X 1,000 kilograms per hour • Mash/wash preparation tank, hot-water tank including tubular heat exchanger – 1 X 2,000 litres • Fermenters & mash pumps – 2 X 2,000 litre Distilling Equipment Achieving approximately 700 litres of whisky alcohol at 40 per cent ABV in five days • 450 litre pot-still with four plate side column including factory pre-piping, control cabinet (heated by indirect steam) Accessories and Services • Pressured CIP pump for fermentation & distilling • Steam boiler low pressure – 1 X 350 kilogram Steam/hr • Cooling unit to chill distillate – 1 X 3 – 5 kW • Mobile alcohol blending tanks, Adapters in stainless steel – 3 X 850 litres • Alcohol tanks – 3 X 1,800 litre • Filtration & chilling tank, alcohol pump – 1 X 850 litre • Measuring, testing – 2 x 1 head bottling unit • Hoses/reducers estimate at final layout how about it,do you give more infornation,thank you
  5. I am looking for to get 5000l vodka (52% after diluted) every day, how should I choose the capacity of each tank, i.e. mash cooker, distillation equipment. Shall I distill more than one batch everyday using a large still, let's say 5000L or 10000L? Or I can use two stills to get the amount I want? If two stills method is more efficient and cost effective, how should I design the size of each still? EMAIL: sophiewu1989@gmail.com
  6. Specification for Still Controller. General notes The still will be operated with 3x 5.5kwultra low density heating elements. Each of these heating elements will be supplied from a separate 415volt 3ph 50 Hertz supply from the distribution board. The distribution board will be positioned away from the unit to ensure that is outside of any alcohol vapours. The distribution board will be fitted with 30amp MCB trips and a 60amp ground circuit breaker. Cables will be run to the still control board in conduit and access ports should be provided to enable the attachment of the conduit. The controller should be both water proof (IP56 or equal) and explosion proof in accordance with NEMA Class 1 Group B. Temperature measurements and display. Temperature measurements shall be made by thermocouples to the following points on the still Still head ( top of column) Still head (entry to lyne arm for pot still operations) Cooling water supply temperature Temperature outlet of condenser Temperature outlet of reflux coil The temperatures recorded shall be displayed on the control bow in degrees Celsius. The length of the thermocouple cables shall be a minimum of ***meters. Control box General requirements The still control box shall be complete with the following functions Enabling key lock which prevent the unit from being actuated. Emergency stop button. This function should disable power supply to all heating coils. It should also have an auxillary shutdown to enable any water pumps to be stopped. Individual heating coil start buttons for each of the coils. These should be individually wired so that only one coil can be turned on at a time. Warning lights shall be wired to show each coil is turned on and operating. Over temperature alarm for each heating coil shall be wired to prevent running the coil without liquid cover. The temperature should be set to 105 degrees Celsius but should be adjustable by the operator. The over temperature should have both flashing and audible alarms. Still control functions Supplier is requested to propose a method of controlling the still operation. The control functions should be designed to minimise manual control and adjustment during operation. Two methods are requested Semi-automatic control In Semi-automatic mode it is desired that once a still controlling set point has been set that the control system manages the heat supply to the still with the goal of maintaining the set point. Fully automatic control In this mode the set point temperature at the top of either the lyne arm or at the top of the column should be modulated in accordance with the general increase in temperature seen to maintain ethanol production over time. (The temperature of production gradually increases from 78C-98C as the ethanol is driven of and as the percentage ethanol in the tank is depleted) This changing set point over time could be accomplished by a learning function where set points are recorded from a manual operation. The controller can then be programed with this data. This should work if all still runs are kept constant in volume. This is called a pre-set program. The controller should have the capability to store up to 5 pre-set programs. The pre-set programs can be numbered. The program should be selectable from the controller and the number of the selected program should be indicated on the control box. Once the still has completed a set run an alarm should be sounded and a warning light should flash. Control box mounting The control box should be wall mountable. Screw access holes shall be provided in the back of the box sealed to prevent ingress of water and vapour and in accordance with the specified standards. who can do,please contact me. Email: zjjerrysun2011@hotmail.com regarding the controller please ask the maker to create a full specification so that we can ensure it meets the requirements we set.this should cover both functional and technical aspects and will ensure that we have a common understanding and that any final doubts are resolved before we confirm the build.
  7. I want to make a control box for 100 still,It has 3*5500 watts elements,I know how to make a "manual control"(one element can 0~5500 watts variable,other element only ON/OFF),Now,I wonder to make a "AUTO control",which temperature can be accord to control for element,thank you for your reply and your suggest how to control according to pot temperature?or how to control according to column temperature? the picture is potentiometer
  8. Still will be oxidized,I try to electroplate it,Do you have any advice
  9. HI,ASD I have a little doubt that why don't you install a valve here,look follow picture if the 3-way ball valve turn the steam go straight to vodka column,but here no valve,then the steam will not enter to whisky column?
  10. copper will become oxidation,how to handl the copper outside surface,everyone can suggest,help
  11. how about both no enough time to cleaning/polishing weekly and not like the brown penny look
  12. that is absolutely gorgeous if the copper will become oxidation, do you have handled the copper outside surface I think that the buttom of column ,it is very wasteful,I 'd better to build a cleaning water tank instead of the leg
  13. your picture appear there are two digital temperature controller?how to use,what control
  14. hard to imagine that how many health dead Angle pillars inside column.How do the polishing inside
  15. how heating mode,the inner is Stainless steel or copper?
  16. Air diaphragm pump
  17. 13.5Kw integrated distillery controller is good how to control your power input of boiler,what time to alarm,once alarm then...what effect of there three digital,can you introduce them how run,thanks,Swede
  18. how to control the boil power input,depend column vapor?or boil temperter
  19. im trying to control the heating element to control the element amperage to lower the amperage to slow the exiting condenser speed so the condensed liquid temp will be lower, below 64. I had a problem with a flash off because i forgot to run the water in time because i had the rheostat too high. i'd like it to sense temperature and adjust input amperage to slow output flow enough with the water running the whole time. i also was thinking of adding another solenoid to the water to start at 140 degrees because this is when i'm seeing flow and would like to leave the first distillation alone and run it slow so i can do stuff around the work area without forgetting to turn the water on at the appropriate time. i always tie a can on the neck but if im out of earshot its a problem. it seems easy enough i just needed some brainstorm juices.
  20. I am in the process of building my still and was just curious how many people have automated, or semi-automated control panels for their stills. I have already started work on a panel for my mash tun that will use a PID unit to monitor temperature and control a steam valve, as well as have a switch for the pump and a timer, etc. Basically a simplified version of the Electric Brewery Control Panel: www.theelectricbrewery.com/control-panel With the mash tun its pretty simple; monitor temperature, control steam. The still on the other hand is not so straight forward. I am building a 150 gallon, steam powered, 4 plate pot still with a dephlegmator. The way I see it there are two data points I could potentially monitor, the collection vapor temperature or the dephlegmator cooling water output temperature rise. And also two inputs that could be controlled, the amount of steam (energy input) or the rate of dephlegmator cooling water flow. So potentially I could use a PID to monitor cooling water temperature rise or vapor temp, and adjust steam input. I don't really think this would get me much though.. Another option would be to monitor cooling water temperature rise and adjust its speed to maintain consistent reflux. With this arrangement adjusting the setting on the PID would control the amount of reflux. Steam input would be manually controlled and vapor temp would just be monitored with an alarm set at various collection points. This arrangement seems like it would be more practical. The easiest option would be to skip the 'control panel' and just build a 'monitoring panel' with displays for cooling water temp, vapor temp, and an alarm. So yeah. I'm curious if anyone else is using a PID or other type of controller, what their setup and experience are. Or if you just have feedback on if you think this would be helpful or is just overkill..
  21. Hi,sorry if my questions offended you. I'm just curious about still equipment, and want to make one by oneself to do some home distilling, want to hear about you guys opinions.
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