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  1. 4 Spout Napa Fermentation (Zambelli) gravity bottle filler, great condition. $1800 new, asking $1000 obo. SOLD Link for details: https://www.napafermentation.com/store/p430/Zambelli-Bottle-Filler.html Jabsco Flexible Impeller Pump. Used 2x month for 4 years, new impeller last year, great condition. 20GPM, 240v. $3,200 new, asking $2,200. We may have a spare new impeller as well I can throw in. Link for details: https://shop.distillery-equipment.com/products/20-gpm-jabsco-flexible-impeller-pump Both are located in Lynnwood, WA 98036. The pump is on a pallet already, and I think the bottler would need to be palletized as well but I may also be able to find a larger box. Buyer responsible for shipping, happy to help in any way I can.
  2. Have they even actually built one? Are they expecting third of a million dollar orders on some drawings? Built to order - with no actual company information, pictures of manufacturing space, hardline phone # etc I would be willing to bet all they've done is secure a Chinese factory to build these when they get an order. This would be cool if it's legit though!
  3. Where are you located? Bruni's site also doesn't list Aspect in a 1L size, do you happen to still have a spec sheet for these? Do they come in boxes? Thanks!
  4. Great! No hurry on our end, wanting an extra one for liqueurs to make life easier. Just message or call when it could head over this way, aj@templedistilling.com 206 nine zero nine 7610.
  5. Can you ship, or are you ever on the West side of the mountains? We're in Lynnwood and interested.
  6. Yep, although it looks like we may actually get an order from the state so I can finally move this. These are strange times indeed!
  7. We have a 270 gallon tote of denatured alcohol, SDA 40 formula that I'd like to sell. We've moved back to gin and it's just taking up space. I paid $18/gallon for it, willing to let it go for that, possibly lower, so please feel free to make an offer. It will make a lot of sanitizer. Buyer will need to arrange shipping or I can wrangle up a quote, FOB Lynnwood, WA.
  8. Yeah, we aren't changing anything on the gin side. This dilemma is purely around whiskey production which would bring in a mash tun etc. If I just needed another still I'd run another bain marie in a heartbeat, I love mine, really soft on whole botanicals in the kettle. For me gin flavor = botanicals, and whiskey = grain (and oak), so GNS for gin and grains for whiskey. If we're staying with electric I'm sure my cost to make GNS would be much higher than bringing it in as we currently do. My main headache is figuring out heating for the 'brewing' equipment. Does anyone run one of Paul's combo mash tun/stripping still? That could be an options with one more electric controller, but would of course not allow me to mash and strip at the same time... I estimate our gin still draws 33 KW on heatup, so if I ran two more six-element stills, we'd be at 99 KW, just 1 KW under the 100 KW cutoff that would tack on $700+/month. I'd have to alternate them anyway. Or run an electric element HLT with an insulated mash tun, but I like the control of being able to heat up or maintain during mashing that steam offers.
  9. I'm at a crossroads. We're an established gin distillery, using NGS as our base and I run one 500 L bain marie pot still to make it. I'm not going to lie, it's easy as far as logistics and heat management go and our equipment footprint is small. We're finally at the funding stage to start our grain-to-glass whiskey endeavors as we took over the lease on the small warehouse space directly next door to us. Here's the kicker: There is no gas to our building, nor is there to buildings on either side of us. There is likely a line on the street (as there are residential neighborhoods across), but as I wait for a quote I'm guessing the cost to bring it in will be enormous, not to mention the property owners likely denying it due to the scope and headache. The new space isn't huge, having an electric boiler would avoid a fire room as well. We've got good 3 phase electricity, but of course those energy costs are higher than gas. We estimate we may grow out of our space in 5-6 years, so the offset of paying more for electricity is probably a wash and we can get started sooner. One of the problems is that our electric cost goes up quite a bit if we exceed 100 KW (I'm still waiting to hear if that is for both spaces combined or not, we're on separate meters but the same bill so I'm guessing it will be for both...). We're at $0.09 per kwh and if we exceed 100 KW, just once in a one year period, we're also charged over $5 per KW every month. If we're running a mash tun, HLT, and either one or two stills for the whiskey (thinking 150-250 Gallon system), it makes sense to have steam. BUT, if my 130 Gallon gin still only uses 30 KW with it's 6 heating elements in the oil bath, does it make sense to dance around our energy billing limits with a 200k BTU electric boiler just to achieve heat up time in 1 hour vs 2? Not to mention the extra expense. Should I just be looking at another bain marie and an HLT powered with elements as well to handle mashing? I wish we had gas I've been so focused on gin the last 4 years that I'm re-entering this side of equipment planning and feeling a little overwhelmed, thought I'd ask you fine folks who may have started this way and have some advice on the equipment side. Thanks in advance!
  10. Just steeping and not distilling after? Shouldn't make a difference, the only time it really will is when you factor distillation into it (heat time mainly is the concern between batch sizes etc). We make a limoncello that I scaled up into the larger batch from a single bottle batch we've made at home for years and it tastes the same. Actually, I was able to use a little less but this may just be because I was over the "maximum saturation" on my smaller batches.
  11. A bit late to the party, but we submitted February 19th and got approval April 22nd, just about 2 months total. We are now scrambling to finish the still etc since this was faster than expected, but overall the process was great and we only had one "round" of revisions which was basically just agreeing to change suggestions by the TTB officer and submitting some edits, after that point was only about a week until final approval. My word of advice, we paid a lawyer about $1500 to review our application after we wrote it, they made some edits and suggestions and gave us some pointers. It did help that one person in the law firm used to work for TTB, but things went smooth and it was a lot cheaper than paying a lawyer to do it all for you, it still cut our approval time in half. Also, if anyone is then planning on a transfer in bond, that took 3 days to reach "recommend manager approval" then another week to actually get approved. Just FYI
  12. Hi! Nope, just work for myself and my distillery . We ended up buying the "extremeflex beverage" hose which from all I read seems to be almost the same specs as the purple flexwing but a little cheaper, they state it is distillery compliant. I have yet to run a ton of high proof spirit through it but it looks sturdy and so far has been great.
  13. Just got in 20ft of Goodyear Extremeflex beverage hose (rated for distillery and a little cheaper than purple flexwing) for a good price at aaahose.com. About $12 a foot but you have to get tri clamp fittings yourself, fast shipping and good customer service.
  14. Yes on the GNS, and you don't need any reflux in the column, we don't have to buy barrels, a forklift, extra warehouse space, and sit on our investment for 2+ years before being able to bring in revenue on it. This is the plan when we can support it, but for us starting small and simple is what we wanted.
  15. We are just focusing on gin to start, the equipment cost was much less and we happen to be in a very good market for gin (we also just happen to be crazy about it too!). We fully plan on doing whiskey in the future, 3 years or so down the road, but just did not have the funds to support doing it right to start out. I feel that as long as you are true to what you want your image to be, the consumers will be happy. A broad spectrum product lineup is great for destination distilleries because it means a very diverse tasting, and with large groups of people there are bound to be different palates and preferences, which means sales will be good since the selection also matches the diversity. Since we are not a destination distillery and will be operating a very small tasting room with just gin and likely a limoncello, we risk having someone come in who is not a gin fan (time to convert!). However, most people who search for us will be gin drinkers already, so that risk is lower with our business model. Honestly what it came down to for us was our starting budget and experience. If you have a lot of funds and time to invest, you will likely grow faster and make more money with a big product line. If you don't have as much, you better be darn good at what you do to pull this off. I am keeping my day job and staying with a single focus, with the plan to perfect our gin and be able to expand in the future once our production for gin becomes routine and I can start growing in whiskey knowledge and production.
  16. As far as the TTB is concerned, as long as it has a serial number then you are good (and just make one up and tag it somewhere on the still). From what I understand, the issue would come down to your local authorities, mainly the fire inspector, as they may want to see certain safety criteria met (pressure relief valve etc). If you are not using steam, there should be no working "pressure" to be concerned about weld strength and certification, but they better be leak free and of course don't use any brazing or welding material with non-food safe components.
  17. I second this! I love the look of Swede's controls but several emails over the last month with no response, I think I am looking elsewhere. I also will have a 500L with 6 element ports, 3 phase power, likely running heat transfer fluid.
  18. Oh man I hear ya! We have gotten everything from "you don't have enough money" to "we don't want a neighborhood bar open at all hours of the night", guess weekend afternoon tasting hours was too much of a risk...Hope you get a space soon!
  19. My wife and I are starting on the smaller side (100g still) for two reasons. 1) Budget--obviously a bit less expensive so we can survive the first stage of the business, test runs for recipe development are a lot easier etc 2) Much shorter run times--means we keep our day jobs to earn money, as well as have extra time to coordinate other aspects of the business. Kind of hard to start a run at 4pm in the afternoon on a 250g still, much easier with 100g to get home in time for some sleep. It also depends a lot on what you are making (vodka, gin, whiskey etc) since a small vodka still could affect flavor negatively if you can't get enough purification, but a smaller gin still might just be a pot still, so besides scaling recipes, will not have a massive effect on your product.
  20. From another budding Washington distillery, I can vouch for your speedy shipping and high quality products! I'm sure we will be using you guys more as business grows!
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