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  1. R5 Whiskey from Charbay in California takes Racer 5 IPA and the distills and ages it. It looks like their label does not mention the original beer and is typed as a flavored whiskey (class/type 149). Here is their label: https://ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=18066001001154
  2. Thank you for the suggestion. We can create green/sustainable distilling section of the forum.
  3. Smirnoff sells roughly 230.4 million liters/year if my math is right that could mean they would save as much as 691k liters in alcohol per year.
  4. Before the recent change in proof variation I spoke with a distiller who would run Smirnoff 100 proof through his TTB approved benchtop machine from Anton Paar because it would always come out precisely at the lowest point of the allowable tolerance which at the time I believe was 49.85% ABV. It would not surprise me if there are other large distillers were doing the same thing but 1% under is obviously outside the expanded 0.3% tolerance so there is a calibration issue or some are cheating the expanded tolerance.
  5. This company The Tierra Group sells a bulk agave spirit made from an agave concentrate (not syrup) created in Jalisco and distilled in the US. I have not tried the product so I cannot vouch for its quality though I have heard some initial positive reports. https://thetierragroup.com/agave-spirits/ As for USA distilled 100% agave spirit from whole plants, I only know of two California distilleries that have tried but I do not think they have produced enough to sell in bulk.
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  7. I know Wood Hat Spirits in Missouri store their barrels in a shipping container on their property because they don't have enough room in their distillery.
  8. You can auction booze through an approved vendor and in Kentucky you can now sell vintage liquor to a retailer who can then resell it. Other than that I'm not aware of any other legal ways to sell liquor per-to-per.
  9. Since the list was on the back label my guess they just highlighted a couple of key botanicals.
  10. Hi Ian back in 2015 The Spirit Guild got a label approved for a botanical brandy. That looked like... Fanciful Name Distilled from (name of fruit) Botanical Brandy With a list of botanicals in the description on the back label.
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  12. An Oregon distiller I know runs direct fire stills off of propane that comes from a big tank on the property because he is out in farm land. He said that some of the up sides for propane were that it burns cleaner and hotter than natural gas.
  13. I don't remember hearing anything about ginskey becoming a class/type. With the new update to the labeling and advertising laws all spirits except for vodka are allowed to have an age statement including gin which was a round about way of allowing aged gin without creating an additional C/T. The new rule also extended the bottled-in-bond labeling rules to gin and since its announcement last summer there have been 3 or 4 gins released as BIB because they were distilled in a single season, aged in new charred oak for at least 4 years, bottled at 50% ABV etc.
  14. Try looking in the forum peer to peer marketplace
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    Hemp Vodka

    Of the two US distilleries that say they are fermenting Hemp and Corn to make vodka they both say that it took them years of trial and error to get the mash right, so my guess is they are not going to be very forthcoming on how they make their product. Also, one nutritional source I looked at says that only 1-2% of hemp seeds are carbohydrates. That seems like a really poor substrate for making spirits unless you have an incredibly large and cheep source. And, unless the data I looked at is wildly wrong, it sounds like the two distilleries that are making these hemp vodkas that the corn is really doing the heavy lifting in terms or alcohol production. It seems like if you are really committed to the idea you could probably make it work but at what expense in terms of time and final cost to the consumer? If you get it to work, for a commercial product, I would definitely be interested to see what it tastes like. Good Luck.
  16. Last I heard was the next best bet is the annual tax extenders bill that will get passed at the end of the year. Similar to last year. At this point I think it is safe to say that nothing of substance legislatively is going to happen until after the election is over and settled.
  17. TTB has defined distillation as "a single run through a pot still or a single run through a column of a column (reflux) still." Title 27 §5.42 (b) (6). They do not provide a definition for rectification but its meaning can be inferred from its usage in Title 27 to mean something like a production process that changes the class/type of a spirit (so not vatting/blending of two spirits of the same C/T and not proofing etc.). That being said, in the UK rectification has a different meaning closer to the re-distillation of a spirit. i.e. the head of the Gin Guild is know as the Grand Rectifier, Most but not all gin made in the UK re-distills botanicals with purchased neutral spirit either on a pot still or a column. Historically in the US circa early 20th Century, rectifiers were sometimes considered those who took neutral spirits and treated them with coloring, flavoring and extracts. These became know as imitation spirits. Or they would take purchased bulk straight whiskey often from Kentucky and blend it with neutral spirit, water, coloring, flavoring, and extracts to sell as whiskey and extend their profit margins.
  18. Other than Huber's book, the International Barrel Symposium books are the best resource I have found.
  19. Yes. High West is a good example of this practice. They have been buying straight bourbon and rye from Indiana and Kentucky distilleries then they blend and proof them to their target profiles. If you use the same type of spirit from two states i.e. an Indiana Straight Bourbon and a Tennessee Straight Bourbon then you can blend them together and the label will read either A Blended of Straight Bourbon Whiskey or Blended Straight Bourbon Whiskey. If you were to mix the bourbon and the rye I think it would just be labeled as Blended Straight Whiskey or A Blend of Straight Whiskeys. When you are blending whiskies from two different states you do not need to put a state of distillation like you would if your were sourcing whiskey from one state and then proofing and bottling in another.
  20. I don't know about varieties but I do know that they take around 7 years to produce their first crop of berries.
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    Sorry I don't.
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    I know a distiller that used cucumber water in the proofing process to add the fresh flavors without getting the stewed characters that can come over in distillation.
  23. The annual Public Policy Conference will be a virtual event this year and you can register for free through Eventbrithe here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/public-policy-conference-registration-111854092602 I flew out to DC last year and it was a privilege to participate and speak to representatives about the needs of the craft distilling community. Since this year's even is virtual and free of charge, I would encourage as many US distillers as possible to participate. Speak directly with your representatives and remind them of the importance of making the FET reduction permanent, the need to end tariffs that effect US spirits and any other regulatory/tax issues effecting your business.
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    Register for Free at Eventbrite The Virtual Public Policy Conference, hosted by the American Craft Spirits Association and the Distilled Spirits Council of the United States, provides distillers, owners or operators of DSPs, sales or front of the house teams, investors, and suppliers to our spirits industry the opportunity to engage directly with lawmakers in the nation’s capital and advocate for parity with beer and wine on FET relief, trade support, and other critically important issues. Given the unprecedented challenges affecting the country, we must not get lost in the pressing matters before Congress. There is no more important time for our collective voices to be heard in Washington D.C. This year we've made it easy for you to "attend" from the comfort of your distillery, home, park, or wherever you might have a quiet spot. All you'll need is a smartphone, tablet, or computer to connect with your industry peers and those on Capitol Hill. Agenda Tuesday, September 15 12:30pm EST- 3:30pm EST / 9:30am-12:30pm PST (3 hours) Issues Impacting the Industry Join Jim Hyland (Public Policy Counsel, ACSA) and Kelly Poulsen (Vice President of Federal Government Relations, DISCUS) for a discussion on the latest on the federal excise tax, issue background, and talking points. Interact with Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau (TTB) officials as they provide an update on the Bureau’s operations with an opportunity to ask questions of TTB officials. Discussions on other emerging issues Wednesday September 16 12:30pm-3:30pm EST/ 9:30am-12:30pm PST (3 hours) Congressional Meetings Join virtual meetings with other distillers from your state and with your elected officials as you seek their support on tax policies and other matters impacting the industry!
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