Hogback Distillery Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Im looking for best advice on avoiding getting a stuck mash while mashing a flaked corn, rye, barley mash in lauter tun. Im hoping that if I use 20%+ malted barley, that I wont need rice husks or additional enzymes, although im not adverse to using either. 1. Any recomendations on a) the order in which the grains are added b) strike/mash temperature ranges for each and c) time left in the mashtun? 2. Would it be advantagous or counterproductive to use the rake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestar Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 On 11/22/2019 at 2:42 PM, Hogback Distillery said: Im looking for best advice on avoiding getting a stuck mash while mashing a flaked corn, rye, barley mash in lauter tun. Im hoping that if I use 20%+ malted barley, that I wont need rice husks or additional enzymes, although im not adverse to using either. 1. Any recomendations on a) the order in which the grains are added b) strike/mash temperature ranges for each and c) time left in the mashtun? 2. Would it be advantagous or counterproductive to use the rake? We find you need about 50% bulky grain/malt in the mix to avoid getting stuck. Can be mixture of grist, hull, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patio29Dadio Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 51% corn, 49% barley malt might work. Never worked with flaked corn though. Assume that the cook does not need to be as hot, but then what is the state of the typical detritus seen from whole grain corn mash? You make the case for not wanting to use exogenous enzymes, but those might also help in better liquefying the start conversion so you can better rise it out of the grain bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Are you asking for advise on lautering a mash of 51%+ corn ? If so, there are a lot of threads on here about that, and the general consensus seem to be : No. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleclerc77 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Do you have the ability to do it on-grain? That would be my first instinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silk City Distillers Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 We did a bourbon with 51% corn, 49% whole oat with husk. The whole oat was roller milled. Boy was that ever a challenge - that self-lautered in the mash tun without a screen. Oat husks are huge, if you crack the oat and leave the husk intact, it blooms like a flower. Had to pump back and forth with heavy agitation in the tun to transfer it all. Post fermentation it was a little bit easier to deal with. Dewatering post distillation was a breeeeeeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestar Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 16 hours ago, Roger said: Are you asking for advise on lautering a mash of 51%+ corn ? If so, there are a lot of threads on here about that, and the general consensus seem to be : No. Agreed, that would be tough to do, even with flaked corn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernhighlander Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Yep, On the grain is best for corn mashes, and if you are going to Bourbon, I would sour mash it for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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