FijiSpirits Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Has anyone used these? Have any actual experience with them? i saw these whilst browsing the other day and they look kinda cool and would allow me to experiment with some local woods for aging product. https://eastcoastbarrels.com/hybrid-system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAndy Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I can't imagine using these, why not just use a normal 55 gal drum with some staves if that was your goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Creek Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Almost don't want to know how much they want for those. I use stainless barrels with spirals for my rum. Happy with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FijiSpirits Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 On 9/29/2020 at 12:15 AM, JustAndy said: I can't imagine using these, why not just use a normal 55 gal drum with some staves if that was your goal? Shipping, transportation, currency exchange, VAT, dirty and clearance Costs typically add 100% to the price of what we receive here in Fiji. So a $200 barrel quickly becomes a $400 barrel. Wood adjuncts are much more compact and cost effective and we can modify here if needed or we can use native woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FijiSpirits Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 On 9/29/2020 at 3:00 AM, Black Creek said: Almost don't want to know how much they want for those. I use stainless barrels with spirals for my rum. Happy with that. How do you deal with letting the spirit “breathe”. Has it been a non issue? Shorter aging times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreshot Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 As the saying goes - oaking isn't aging. Without breathing you miss that part of it. That being said if you're doing a short aging on the spirit anyhow it probably won't make much of a difference anyhow. For price the 59g Titan Barrel (basically the same thing) is $1000 for the barrel and $400 for the replacement staves. https://www.titanbarrels.com/ The Squarrel (you can search for previous post on this) is $760 for a 10g version and $90 for replacement staves. They have bigger version but they don't list the price. https://www.mtka-bec.com/search?searchterm=squarrel At least with the Squarrel you're getting better storage density. Too bad they didn't make it more easily forkable for a pallet jack or forklift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAndy Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 6 hours ago, FijiSpirits said: Shipping, transportation, currency exchange, VAT, dirty and clearance Costs typically add 100% to the price of what we receive here in Fiji. So a $200 barrel quickly becomes a $400 barrel. Wood adjuncts are much more compact and cost effective and we can modify here if needed or we can use native woods. I understood, I was saying to just use a regular stainless steel drum as Black Creek did rather than some weird proprietary barrel that's more expensive (and will probably leak, and will probably not be made in 5 years). If you are concerned about it breathing, just open the drum and stir it once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FijiSpirits Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 8 hours ago, Foreshot said: As the saying goes - oaking isn't aging. Without breathing you miss that part of it. That being said if you're doing a short aging on the spirit anyhow it probably won't make much of a difference anyhow. For price the 59g Titan Barrel (basically the same thing) is $1000 for the barrel and $400 for the replacement staves. https://www.titanbarrels.com/ The Squarrel (you can search for previous post on this) is $760 for a 10g version and $90 for replacement staves. They have bigger version but they don't list the price. https://www.mtka-bec.com/search?searchterm=squarrel At least with the Squarrel you're getting better storage density. Too bad they didn't make it more easily forkable for a pallet jack or forklift. I kinda like the idea of the squarrel. Further I can order in some decent oak as raw materials and build the heads and stave using my shop or other local craftsmen which would save us a ton assuming it can be done properly. Plus it’s better for our local Businesses. A few hundred USD goes a long way for lead carpenters making less than $4/hr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreshot Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 For your situation I think that's a good idea. I like having the locals process the wood - it adds to your story of being local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Creek Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 21 hours ago, FijiSpirits said: How do you deal with letting the spirit “breathe”. Has it been a non issue? Shorter aging times? Non issue so far. I do intend to pick up a couple jack daniels barrels from my sugar guy next trip and fill those for a bit see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FijiSpirits Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Black Creek said: Non issue so far. I do intend to pick up a couple jack daniels barrels from my sugar guy next trip and fill those for a bit see what happens. How long are you aging for typically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Creek Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 9-12 months and beyond. Depends on product. Generally around 7-9 months I start doing occasional tasting until I am satisfied it is ready for gauging and bottling. I have some 2 year old rum now that has a nice creamy sweet front end in both white and matured on wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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