EchoJoe Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 We're spinning up a fill-your-own bottle experience in our taproom. For now, we'll likely just use a barrel thief to extract from the barrel - and I'd like to pull this right from the barrel if possible. Some bigger distilleries have fancier equipment, but I'm having a hard time even finding a spigot or faucet that I trust. I'm thinking I would need a tapered thread on the opposite side to bite into the wood of the barrel and prevent leaks. We tried drilling a whole for a beer tap as a proof of concept, and just didn't trust that the threading would hold and not leak. Any ideas? What am I even trying to look for? Searching isn't getting me very far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIVE x 5 Consulting Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Hard problem! St. Augustine down in FL has one solution, pretty clever. Looks like a pretty standard beer tap (not even a Perlick). It's not actually coming from a barrel, but it looks like it is... If you want help with the regulatory compliance side of this plan, drop me a line. I've helped a few distilleries execute "fill your own" experiences (there are some major gotchas you may not have considered). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindred Spirits Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 All the "Old Timey" barrel taps were smooth bore, but most are threaded now. https://barrelsunlimited.com/product/4-inch-brass-spigot/ With a threaded setup you have to make sure the gaps in the valleys of the threads are filled. The old style you just can't be shy about hitting in and they work great. Main thing for both is making sure the hole is the proper size and not ovaled out at all. Might be worth it to grab some forstner bits to make sure of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EchoJoe Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 6 hours ago, Kindred Spirits said: With a threaded setup you have to make sure the gaps in the valleys of the threads are filled. That's my primary concern. We're worried about leaking somewhat, though hopefully a little barrel wax can help with that. The big concern is that it fails entirely, the spigot pops out overnight or when no one is watching, and we lose the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindred Spirits Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 8 minutes ago, EchoJoe said: That's my primary concern. We're worried about leaking somewhat, though hopefully a little barrel wax can help with that. The big concern is that it fails entirely, the spigot pops out overnight or when no one is watching, and we lose the whole thing. Worst case you could stand them up at night if you are that concerned, or dump the barrels into totes that they could fill from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNorris Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 All DSP operations must happen on bonded premises, that includes bottling; so doing this in your taproom is the first issue I notice. I have spoken to the TTB about this a few times. Make sure you know the regulations and how to do this compliantly before you institute a program like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cru Bottling Systems Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Hi EchoJoe, We are introducing a small, single unit mechanism for customers to fill their own bottle as part of their tasting room experience. It will automatically fill a per-determined amount (in our case 750ml) and has a built in mechanical stop to prevent overfilling, spillage, etc... We will have the unit at the CBX/CBE Tasting Room Expo in Reno on May 7th and 8th, and we will have it at the ADI show in Baltimore this August. Reach out to me (DM, email (steve@crusystems.com) and I can get you more info. Thanks ! -Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EchoJoe Posted April 9 Author Share Posted April 9 On 4/3/2024 at 3:58 PM, JNorris said: All DSP operations must happen on bonded premises, that includes bottling; so doing this in your taproom is the first issue I notice. I have spoken to the TTB about this a few times. Make sure you know the regulations and how to do this compliantly before you institute a program like this. Yep absolutely. By "in my taproom" I mean at my location. It's in bonded premises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EchoJoe Posted April 9 Author Share Posted April 9 FYI for anyone searching for this later, I did find a vendor with a product we're going with. Once we have it installed and in use for a while, I'll try to remember to report back on my experience. https://www.singleshotbarrelworks.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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