lb distillers Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 We are looking for a used commercial heat exchanger or a supplier of a reasonably priced new one. Please no home brew crap. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denver Distiller Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 What are you cooling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick jones Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Shell and tube? gasketed plate and frame? helical coil? surface area? BTU/hr? Intended use? Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb distillers Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 Looking to cool our wort. 500gal from 158F to 77. We've been fermenting and distilling on the grain thus far and our knock down time is outrageous. Changing over to a lauter system and looking to cool enroute to the fermenters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denver Distiller Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 probrewer.com classifieds. Or aaronequipment. You're looking for a SS Plate and Frame heat exchanger. The only two I have ever worked with are APV and Mueller, both high end exchangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick jones Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 We are looking for a used commercial heat exchanger or a supplier of a reasonably priced new one. Please no home brew crap. Thanks Looking to cool our wort. 500gal from 158F to 77. I don't know how things are north of the border at the moment, but down here used equipment is absurdly expensive. Denver gave you the best places to look for used, but compare those used prices with new, like the companies that he mentioned and this company: http://www.wcr-regasketing.com/. Whenever I look at used equipment, the question that gives me the heebie-jeebies is, "used to do what?" I have recently implemented one of WCR's gasketed plate and frame (I strongly advise you not to go brazed, like that homebrew crap) heat exchangers in our distillery for the purpose of pre-heating our wash (an additional benefit of your heat exchanger that you may have overlooked). We're pre-heating 400 gals of wash from 70 F to 150 F and cooling our used condenser water from 180 F to 90 F in more or less 1/1 quantities using WCR's model no WCR-A216B with 43 plates and two passes. Matt Kosik is the engineer that helped us out. Good luck, Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saaz Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Nick, just curious approximately how much that heat exchanger set you back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dehner Distillery Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 I have a design for a heat exchanger just like what you're talking about that I've always wanted to build let me know if you're interested. Joseph Master Distiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natrat Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Try www.bid-on-equipment.com or call Sigma packaging equipment if you have your heart set on a plate exchanger. Thermaline/Nixon Vicarb are in WA state, and they sell excellent HX's. I'm having the same problems as you, but I'm considering a scaled-up homebrew crap approach. If it works, I'll post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick jones Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Nick, just curious approximately how much that heat exchanger set you back? Sorry it took me a while to get back to you, saaz. I want to say the price tag was somewhere in the $5K range. Works perfectly. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG Thermal Consulting Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Lb, I distribute a line of shell and tube mash exchangers, two week lead time from receipt of order and payment. I can sent a photo over to you if you email me at mikegronski@gmail.com I offer the closed loop system: chiller with chilled water pump, water reservoir and mash exchanger. Regards, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestar Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 We have a tube-in-tube from Thermaline, 1.5" ID for pumping the mash through, 10' total length (5' with U-bend), less than $3K. Could have been longer for that price, but we were space constrained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dehner Distillery Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I can build a wart chiller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG Thermal Consulting Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I am going to have a couple small drycoolers reworked- good for first stage cooling in summer or complete winter cooling when combined with a large enough process water/glycol reservoir. Going to have a 5 and 6 ton nominal completed. This is matched to a shell/tube exchanger (under $5K) . Is it your intention to make this a closed loop or are you going to use city (or well) water to make it happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beach Time Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 To size a plate and frame you will need to also provide the knockout time (or flow rate), cooing water temperature, cooling flow rate available. Alfa Laval and GEA are a couple other high end makers. Try AGC Heat Transfer for an economy/value supplier in the US; they have both east and west coast locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG Thermal Consulting Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Are you cooling mash or wort???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisan Still Design Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 you need something like this, scaled down appropriately Building a slightly smaller version of this in all copper for a client 5ft long with 7 passes back and forth of 2". all in a single path to reduce clogging, but if its cleared wort that wouldn't be an issue. I had thoughts about fitting a control system to it to regulate coolant flow, which would give you the ability to dial in your output temps, but that might just be overkill. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG Thermal Consulting Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 We are looking for a used commercial heat exchanger or a supplier of a reasonably priced new one. Please no home brew crap. Thanks I am also introducing a nsf air/mash or wort cooler for high temp side of mash cool (fan has 400 watt mtr) to within 10F degrees of ambient, so for summer you would need a source of chilled water and a smaller exchanger to take out remainder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG Thermal Consulting Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 If you are set with the exchanger, how a 'bout a closed loop glycol cooler? It'll cut down on water/electrical use. Two week delivery. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scissortail Distillery Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I have a 21ft tube in tube xchanger. You can call me at 405-326-5466 or email me at garrettjanko@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 Hi, I have installed a numbers of systems that do exactly what you demand. In plants that use a lot of process or boiler feed water I install a heat exchanger that uses incoming plant water to cool your product and also heat the incoming water to feed your boiler or other process that use hot water. I am dismantling two large food plants and have a wide range of process equipment including heat exchangers, copper kettles, pumps, ss valves, clamps, tubing etc. Junior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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