Werner Distilling Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I've got my permit, the state license, local, all that. Now I have to join NABCA and pay 1500 (min) per year, for a 6 digit number to sell in my home state. I guess its still cheaper. Than a distributers cut but it feels like a ripoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladhatter Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Cheaper than fines and jail time for sure. Count your self lucky... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McKee Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I've got my permit, the state license, local, all that. Now I have to join NABCA and pay 1500 (min) per year, for a 6 digit number to sell in my home state. I guess its still cheaper. Than a distributers cut but it feels like a ripoff. Careful with how you think of the NABCA number. This is not a distributor's cut, you will still pay a markup to State Liquor Warehouses and Distributors on top of the fee for the NABCA number. See the map in the hyperlink. http://www.nabca.org/States/States.aspx For instance, Montana charges a 20% markup & 3% excise tax on top of the NABCA fee ....... and without the NABCA registration, you can't sell in MT or the 16 other states in the NABCA system. Costs of doing business in a beverage alcohol environment is varied. Wait until you attempt to sell into markets with locally controlled liquor divisions (those by county) and the NABCA fee will seem small. Good Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott @ Twenty2Vodka Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 you can purchased just the number without paying for full membership. cost me 1.5 years of "membership" to discover that. just the num is like $75. is it too late? hopefully you were paying in 6 month installments...? -Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott @ Twenty2Vodka Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 with full membership BTW, you can get unlimited CSC numbers. but you need a lot of skus to justify the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werner Distilling Posted September 18, 2012 Author Share Posted September 18, 2012 Thanks Scott!!!!!!!! They make it sound like you HAVE to be a member. Believe me, I know about the markup by the state. Ooof. Sorry, but I see the Nabca number as redundant. Thankfully I have not joined yet! I'd much rather pay per number so thanks for the help and sorry for the rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewnspirits Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I'm just learning about the NABCA and am trying to get my head around the in's and out's of membership as it applies to me operating in my home state of Pa. and neighboring New Jersey, New York, Delaware and Ohio. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohninWV Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 We do what Scott does, pay a small fee for each number. Although we live in a control state and are surrounded by control states, we try to steer clear of them. Holy cow, it's so much easier in an open state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradocaster Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 so a $75 "number" per product? What's the number for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott @ Twenty2Vodka Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 so a $75 "number" per product? What's the number for? If you want to sell your product in a control state, you need to assign that product a control state code which is handed down and "managed" by the NABCA (National Alcohol Beverage Control Association). Control states won't consider a product for listing until it is give a Control State Code (CSC) In addition to existing, the CSC must be displayed in a certain fashion, mostly regarding size, on case lables. These details are provided by the NABCA. here's an example of what my case lable looks like with the CSC printed on it the required size and font, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauport Bob Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Great thread. This is what I believe the ADI forum is about. Thanks Scott for sharing and clearing things a little. I look forward to reading your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradocaster Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I agree with Bob, Thanks Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewnspirits Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Curious if any distributors might take care of this for DSP's who aren't located in control states but want to market their goodies in those states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coop Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I seriously do not think that you can expect any help at all from distributors. They will insist that you take care of it all and then some just to get them to carry your products. Coop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedd Haas Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 My research so far suggests that most states (control and non-control) require you to register your company with them and register your product in order to sell there. So while a distributor might help with that process, it appears you can't escape the paperwork, or the fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werner Distilling Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 Go to nabca.org, download the cscspecification pdf, and download the request form for the number. My state contact has been very helpful with regards to helping with my questions for the correct way to fill these out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradocaster Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Has anybody used the analytics/ stats info to help with sales forecasting? it looks like the reports and pricing may be a help in deciphering estimated sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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