cinewalt Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Just looked up what Modernist Cuisine had to say about distilling and they're all about the Rotovap for distilling essences of foods without altering the flavor profile by heating. A large scale version of a Rotovap for full scale distillery operation seems like an engineering nightmare, but I'm curious if anybody's working with equipment that at least approximates this idea by lowering the boiling temperature with a vacuum. If anybody has successfully distilled a whisky, in particular, using an artificially low boiling point - how's that turn out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fldme Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 There are some pt still I have seen operated under vacuum as well as columns made for gns under vaccum. I could see trying whiskey or gin in one on a pot. They are not good for operations that use thinset to sour mashes as the heat in a vacuum still is not high enough to kill off any bacteria that may have been present in the fermenter. In these instances, they use partially concentrated stillage from the dryhouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Delos vodka in Lewisville Texas is using vacuum stills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisNYC Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 So is greenpoint ginsmiths in Brooklyn, NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinewalt Posted January 14, 2013 Author Share Posted January 14, 2013 So is greenpoint ginsmiths in Brooklyn, NY. What they say about their product is exactly what I would expect... Feeling like I'm going to have to try to experiment with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tl5612 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 more vacuum gins include: Sacred Gin Oxley Gin Cambridge Distillery (white label vacuum gins) Cream Gin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McKee Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Vacuum distillation is pretty standard in fuel ethanol refineries too.......20-200 MGY kind of facilities. So figure most of the NGS available from outfits like UltraPure and others has been vacuum distilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seventh son Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I've been vacuum distilling for several years, there is a bit of a learning curve. Doing it grain-to-glass is a challenge - everything changes. Distilling GNS into gin under vacuum seems to be the path most are taking. You don't want to try any serious vacuum in a typical still - unless you like seeing implosions! Many states also require National Board certified vessels for vacuum processes. I happen to have a nice litte 150 Liter (40 gallon ) stainless steel jacketed tank with a National Board Full Vacuum certification. It would be a great starter tank for GNS/Gin production. My supplier shipped me the wrong size tank - I'll sell it for what I paid if anyone is interested. Otherwise, its going back next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevea Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I understand Grants in Scotland operates some stills under vacuum for NGS. I've read (somewhere?) there is at least one Japanese whiskey made with vacuum distillation. Such alcohol is said to very soft and smooth. OTOH it takes a substantial vacuum to operate, and the typical still or column might collapse if not designed for this force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seventh son Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 The Japanese liquor is called Shoshu. I have never had it but I too have read that it is very smooth. The low temp vacuum distillation changes all of the typical distillation parameters and changes the equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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