Monthly Reports

[dwhuff]

Can someone point me in a direction for guidance in filling out the monthly reports namely production operations and processing operations. Have read the TTB instructions and they don't give much information. Storage operations report is pretty straight forward but the other 2 are not making sense.

For example, we just started the end of March but in that last week of march we produced 16.64 proof gallons. We sold 5 cases totaling 11.89 proof gallons. Still have 2 cases in distillery. 31.2 proof gallons were produced and placed in storage. On the production operations report Line 1 says tax payment.. I assume I put 11.89 gallons there. Then on line 9 where it is entered in processing account do I put the 16.64? Then at the bottom on line 14 it wants a total produced which would not be correct.. As you can see I'm totally confused and can't find any instructions or guidance to walk me through the reports. Even a sample report would clear it up..... Seems like it should be easy especially since we just started and have little to report but I'm not getting it for some reason.

[gordon]

I agree, these are confusing and I could use some help figuring things also. Seems this might be something ADI or our local guilds could provide to benefit its members and increase awareness to make sure we are reporting correctly??

[dwhuff]

Just figured something out. If you look at the tutorials on the TTB website and go to the FAQ and instructions there's a link to the form. I figured it was a link to the form.......lol..... But, if you click it then you can look at each box and bring up highlighted instructions on what to put in each box. Have looked at those tutorial pages so many times over the last few months my eyes hurt. As I said, when it shows a link to the form I figured it was a link to the form.. And I have the form on PDF and printed off to pencil in the numbers... Never bothered to click the link until this afternoon... another lesson learned about the TTB website... Am I the only idiot around here?? Wait, don't answer that!

[gordon]

It took me a while to figure out what you were talking about, but I finally got it, and that definitely helps. For everyone else, I've summarized a few things and included some links below:

TTB F 5110.11 – Monthly Report of Storage Operations (http://www.ttb.gov/forms/f511011.pdf)

Completed using proof gallons – Monthly, due by the 15^th of the following month.

http://www.ttb.gov/forms_tutorials/f511011/f511011_tutorial.html

The purpose of completing TTB Form 5110.11 is to report storage account activity for a Beverage or Industrial Distilled Spirits Plant. This report is to be filed if the operation of warehouseman is shown on your permit and registration. If there is no activity during the month, you are required to file the report showing zeros.

Send to:

TTB National Revenue Center

(Form 5110.11)

550 Main Street, Room 8002

Cincinnati, Ohio 45202

TTB F 5100.28 – Monthly Report of Processing Operations (http://www.ttb.gov/forms/f511028.pdf)

Completed using proof gallons - Monthly, due by the 15^th of the following month.

http://www.ttb.gov/forms_tutorials/f511028/f511028_tutorial.html

Form 5110.28 must be filed if your plant conducts processing (rectifying), bottling, packaging or denaturing operations. You are required to file this report each month. If there is no activity during any months, you are required to file the report showing zeros.

Send to:

TTB National Revenue Center

(Form 5110.28)

550 Main Street, Room 8002

Cincinnati, Ohio 45202

TTB F 5110.40 – Monthly Report of Production Operations (http://www.ttb.gov/forms/f511040.pdf)

Completed using proof gallons - Monthly, due by the 15^th of the following month.

http://www.ttb.gov/forms_tutorials/f511040/f511040_tutorial.html

Form 5110.40 must be filed if distilling/production operations are shown on permit and on registration. You are required to file this report each month. If there is no activity during the month, you are required to file the report showing zeros.

Send to:

Director, National Revenue Center

(Form 5110.40)

550 Main Street, Room 8002

Cincinnati, Ohio 45202

TTB F 5110.43 – Monthly Report of Processing (Denaturing) Operations (http://www.ttb.gov/forms/f511043.pdf)

Completed in wine gallons (regular US liquid gallons) - Monthly, due by the 15^th of the following month.

http://www.ttb.gov/forms_tutorials/f511043/f511043_tutorial.html

Report in this section recovered denatured spirits and/or recovered articles users return to you for restoration or redenaturation. You may also report any denatured spirits or articles that you recover and/or either restore or redenatured.

Send to:

Director, National Revenue Center

(Form 5110.43)

550 Main Street, Ste. 8002

Cincinnati, Ohio 45202-5215

TTB F 5000.24 – (http://www.ttb.gov/forms/f500024.pdf)

Completed for US$ amounts – Semi-Monthly returns are normally due no later than the 14^th day after the last day of the return period. Except for the September periods the 16th-26th shall be filed no later than Sept. 29th. The period 27th-30thshall be filed no later than October 14th. (3 returns due in September)

http://www.ttb.gov/forms/helpful_hints500024.shtml

http://www.ttb.gov/forms/smartform-user-guide500024.pdf

http://www.ttb.gov/expo/presentations-black/s10-bw.pdf

Send to:

Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau

Excise Tax (F 5000.24)

P O Box 790353

St. Louis, MO 63179-0353

[gordon]

According to the TTB site, several of these forms can be filed via www.pay.gov/. For whatever reason, I can't figure out how to file anything via this site. Once I've logged in, I go to the Find All Forms - by Agency Name, locate Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau and the following is all that comes up:

TTB General Information View PDF Form Number: TTB INFO TTB customers interested in filing electronically, should visit the following site for more information: http://www.ttb.gov/epayment/epayment.shtml Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau < Department of the Treasury https://www.pay.gov/paygov/forms/formInstanceRequiredLogin.html?agencyFormId=16848681

What am I doing wrong??

[leftturndistilling]

The way that I've navigated to the forms is click on Find all Forms (on the left hand of the screen), by Agency name, select TREASURY DEPARTMENT, the the second one down is Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade . and all of the forms are there..... Goood Luck ...thanxxxx..Brian

[gordon]

Thanks Brian.

Unfortunately, I still can't get it to work.

When I try that, it gets me to the same screen/info as I posted above. When I click on the link (TTB General Information), I get this message:

• The system could not retrieve the requested form from the server.
  

If I click on View PDF, I get:

The system has experienced an unrecoverable error.

Maybe it's something on my end??

[leftturndistilling]

Yeah I had a lot of problems getting into it the first time too ... They had my username/password all messed up .. Had to file my first reports on paper

[gordon]

You have to register (or re-register) via the pay.gov site. After getting registered, we received a new user id. Logging in using this id now allows us to see 'private' forms and all the above forms are now included.

[jeffw]

Don't think you should register yourself. Talk to Phyllis St. Clair at the TTB, she is in charge of pay.gov stuff and can fix things faster than you can. Sorry, don't know where I put her phone number.

[johnbsys]

Duplicate post but desperate! Any help would be appreciated. Thanks...

"I am having the same problem. We are just starting out and I am not sure how to properly account for redistilling a stripping run. For example (using fictitious numbers), In September I did a stripping run of 5 proof gallons so I recorded it on form 5110.40 (monthly production) on lines 11 and 14.

In October I added the 5 gallons to another wash and redistilled it giving me 9 gallons. I also did 3 more stripping runs at 5 gallons each thus giving me a total of 9 + 15 = 24 proof gallons.

For Octobers 5110.11 I tried to put 5 gallons on line 1 (on hand first of month) and line 18 (transferred to production), and 24 gallons on line 24 (End of month). Pay.Gov gives me an error saying that the totals do not match on lines 6 and 24.

I've tried calling the TTB since last week and keep getting answering machines and no call backs. Plus today is the deadline for filing (15th).

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

John "