dkr02 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 We hope to be opening in the next 60 days, and need some new, uncharred barrels. I contacted Independent Stave and they're backed up and not taking on any new customers. Any suggestions? We're located in NC... Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetonDistillery Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Good luck. Nobody seems to have new barrels except for their existing customers, and even existing customers are not getting all of the barrels that they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkr02 Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 Well, that's great news! Howabout used barrels in the eastern US- any available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salishseaorganicliqueurs Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Basically, there is an oak shortage right now and no one has barrels for sale that aren't 6 months to a year out at best. There is a way to get them sooner from over seas but the only way most of those companies will ship is if you buy an entire shipping container (approx 200-250 barrels). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetonDistillery Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Basically, there is an oak shortage right now and no one has barrels for sale that aren't 6 months to a year out at best. There is a way to get them sooner from over seas but the only way most of those companies will ship is if you buy an entire shipping container (approx 200-250 barrels). I see a business model there. Import a container of 200-250, then sell them in batches of 10-20 to all of the hungry buyers in the craft distillery market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salishseaorganicliqueurs Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I see a business model there. Import a container of 200-250, then sell them in batches of 10-20 to all of the hungry buyers in the craft distillery market. Could be feasible but I doubt the profit margins would be very high or else there'd be plenty of people doing it. I know a few local distillers here looking at buying a container. If they open it up to other people outside of the few of us then I'm certain you guys will hear about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSpye Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Could be feasible but I doubt the profit margins would be very high or else there'd be plenty of people doing it. I know a few local distillers here looking at buying a container. If they open it up to other people outside of the few of us then I'm certain you guys will hear about it. This actually seems like the most workable model - for a number of us within, say, a particular state to buy a container and divide them up. Actually, I know a guy who would probably be interested in playing the role of "distributor". Any links to one of these overseas suppliers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salishseaorganicliqueurs Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I've only heard about this through another local distiller who was trying to gauge interest in our distiller's guild. I would be happy to share information as I get it if it's free to be made available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedgeBird Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Actually, I know a guy who would probably be interested in playing the role of "distributor". Any links to one of these overseas suppliers? I would assume its probably Vadai or another Hungarian supplier? My own hunt for barrels seemed to end with these being the only ones available/willing to take orders. I am now proceeding with making my own barrels in house. Hoping to fill the first prototype next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSpye Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Yeah, it's gotten crazy out there. I just got a 2014 price list from BarrelBuilders. 220 liter oak - $425.00. And they don't have any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackButton85 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 The only place I have seen that still has barrels are these guys. But the biggest they make is the 20 liter which works out to 5.2 gallons. We are trying some so I can let you know how they turn out in a few months. http://www.northamericanbarrel.com/Craft-Whiskey-Barrel-for-the-Home-p/blackband-barrel.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetonDistillery Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Which cooperages actually make the 2 liter barrels? I have found plenty of people selling them at various prices, but they are not the actual cooperage that makes them. Anyone know where they are actually made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Schulz Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 We have barrels. We are producing bourbon barrels in Napa, CA. Please call 707-252-3408, and ask to be connected with Dan Brick. He is our East Coast sales rep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natrat Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Who is your Utah rep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedgeBird Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Which cooperages actually make the 2 liter barrels? I have found plenty of people selling them at various prices, but they are not the actual cooperage that makes them. Anyone know where they are actually made? I think these guys make a lot of them.. http://www.vadaiwinebarrels.com/handcrafted-barrels.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwalla Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Not to thread jack, but is there a way to take used barrels and shave out part of the inside, rechar, and use them again as bourbon barrels? I know bourbon barrels have to be "new" so I'm not sure if this is A) Possible, or Even a loophole. In the future I imagine barrels are only going to be harder to get hold of, and I remember reading one urban myth about the origination of charred barrels claiming that early distillers would use barrels that contained other items like fish, etc, and charred the inside to remove any element of the prior contents of the barrel. Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedgeBird Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Page 8 of the most recent issue of "Beverage Master" has an article about this. (re-charring used barrels) A company called "Barrel 53 Cooperage" is talked about in the article and they have an advert on that page saying they are "taking orders for November" Just looked at the cover of this magazine and it looks like it is their first issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlico Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Hello, I am writing from TONELERÍA JUAN PINO http://www.toneleriajuanpino.es/ a family run business based in Montilla (Córdoba, Spain) which specialises in the production of a very large variety of barrels made from genuine American oak wood. Casks are also available in European Oak wood. The raw materials are duly treated in order to make top-quality products which fully comply with the regulations implemented by the European Union. In particular, the wooden components undergo a meticulous process until they reach the right humidity and the appropriate tannic content. Furthermore, the barrels can be toasted according to the needs of their customers, so that they can provide the necessary conditions which are required to produce every sort of wine or spirit. The company also supplies premium quality ex sherry barrels, mainly ex oloroso and ex PX casks. They are available in different sizes (500 litre butts, 250 litre puncheons and hogsheads). This complex and painstaking elaboration process is based on traditional techniques which result in making barrels suitable to elaborate the very best wines and spirits. Despite JUAN PINO’S foundation dates from the early 90’s, the company’s owners have a previous and extensive experience within the industry. Several generations of the same family have been involved in this activity, passing their know-how on to their descendants. Our company has developed two different lines of products: The classic barrels range from 200 to 500 litres, the largest ones are commonly used in the production of wine whereas those of 250 litres are mainly used to make whisky and other spirits. The second line of products are barrels and other items for decorating purposes such as barrel-shaped clocks, display cabinets and ice buckets, sets of table with chairs etc… If you are interested please contact me on my email: david@tradelink-uk.com Regards, David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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