scutter Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Anyone have any insights into the used still equipment market and what brands or types of stills might hold their value and are easier to sell than others? For example, would a CARL still hold its resale value better than a Vendome still? Would a Vendome still hold its value better than an Artisan Still Design still? Would a used 500 gallon still see more demand than a used 250 or 300 gallon still (or vice-versa)? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisan Still Design Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 we've yet to see one of our systems be resold for less than what was originally paid for it. we also offer buy back options if you need to upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mendodistilling Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I see stills sold at great discounts even here in classifieds all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dehner Distillery Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Agreed, most of the time someone is selling a still because they're going out of business and they need every drop of money they can get their hands on. So they're willing to take a loss on equipment. name brand will hold there value.... but they are super over priced to begin with.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestar Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I see stills sold at great discounts even here in classifieds all the time. Really, where is that, Mendo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaalvenn Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I'd be surprised to see professional distillery equipment selling at much of a discount given the lead times by most manufacturers. Maybe I'm wrong? I'm guessing the larger stuff would have a higher residual value right now since a lot of distilleries are expanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mendodistilling Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 The hoga stills that ransom spirits had @ half what it costs or less than half to import them from hoga. My stills I bought from someone last month were less than half of new. The Holstein still I almost bought for 70k from a company who was a brewery/distillery in flagstaff Arizona when they stopped the distillery and sold the 1200l still for 1/2-1/3 the cost new , shall I go on? I see the distillery lead times on new equipment increasing but the nature of the business makes for plenty of delays and needs to sell things if you grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaalvenn Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 The hoga stills that ransom spirits had @ half what it costs or less than half to import them from hoga. My stills I bought from someone last month were less than half of new. The Holstein still I almost bought for 70k from a company who was a brewery/distillery in flagstaff Arizona when they stopped the distillery and sold the 1200l still for 1/2-1/3 the cost new , shall I go on? I see the distillery lead times on new equipment increasing but the nature of the business makes for plenty of delays and needs to sell things if you grow. Wow, I wouldn't have thought that. Good to know! Losing something like $30-40k of value sounds terrible when you consider how much time, labor and bottle sales it costs just to break even on the loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scutter Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 Well, as someone looking to buy I'd love to be able to grab one of these deals. I assume you don't find them on this forum as it seems like all of the stills listed here are gone in a day or two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Action Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 We started reasearching the industry long ago, and have equipment quotes from a lot of the still manufacturers from over many years. Prices for new stills have doubled in some cases, even after factoring the price swings of copper/steel and euro/dollar inflation. Same with leadtimes. Ten years ago you could by a 200L German still off the shelf from GW Kent for less than $20K. I think the current high prices are simply a factor of supply and demand. It's a good time to be a still manufacturer, but a not so great for a purchaser. For anyone buying a still today I wouldn't absolutely count on getting yout monry back when it comes time to resell your own equipment. With so many new distilleries opening in recent (and upcoming) years there is likely to be a serious increase in the availability of new equipment as companies scale up or go out of business. Plus I see a lot of new supply companies starting to offer distillation equipment and competing with the established ones. Not that it helps anyone today, but I expect to see a price correction in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mendodistilling Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Look at the restaurant business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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