BraedenB Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Hey All, We are using a "sqround" bottle, which is to say a square bottle with tapered edges and rounded faces. Unfortunately that means our bottle does not work with hand operated, square or round labeling machines. Here is the technical specs of the bottle http://www.bruniglass.com/assets/Uploads/pdf/17291D1.pdf We are using the Bruni Contessa and I believe AAC has a similar one in the Milan. I have heard that the 105 Race RLTC SP might work but didn't have the best reviews. We are fine hand labeling until we can afford an automated line, but if anyone has any suggestions I would love to hear them. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentondouglas Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I'm confident that you could use the Race RLTC SP. While operating the labeler very quickly is a skill that has to be developed, you should have it dialed in after a few days of working with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteB Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I'm confident that you could use the Race RLTC SP. While operating the labeler very quickly is a skill that has to be developed, you should have it dialed in after a few days of working with it. Will this work with wide labels that wrap more than half way around this type of bottle?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraedenB Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share Posted November 16, 2015 Thanks for the advice Brenton. We will check that out and I am sure we will put in the time to become proficient with the RACE. Pete, for your information we are using just a front and back label that don't cross any of the corners on the bottle. We have talked to a few other distillers using these types of bottles and they mentioned that they had some trouble doing any wrap around with the tapered edges. For anyone else reading this post, we found an automated machine as well. Although it is out of our price range, most Tamp style of label applicators can work with these bottles. Here is a link to a model that we know works with the Bruni Contessa: http://www.take-a-label.com/tal-3100t/ Anyone else with this problem, feel free to PM me and I can fill you in on how these work for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshGreenDoor Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 This is a life saver! I've been researching Race because we're using the imperial by covet. Also, "squaround"... @BraedenB, what was the price range for the take-a-label 3100? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraedenB Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 Josh, we have heard from another distiller using our bottle that they range between $4-5,000 a pop. Probably an unnecessary expense for us at this time, but great to keep in mind as you scale up. Feel free to DM me and I can fill you in on the RACE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dehner Distillery Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I sell Race Label products.... If you need to buy one, let me know. Primara sells one too that will put them on square bottles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraedenB Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 Thanks Denher, I will get at you in a bit about a Race. We had looked at the Primara AP550 which is what I think you are referring to. It claims to work with tapered edges, although all the demo videos I have been able to find only have it with perfectly square bottles. Anyone using this that can attest to its ability to do "sqround" bottles? Video of the AP550: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshGreenDoor Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 The primera seems that it would work, even with the tapered edges. The only issues might be the bottle guides. Probably wouldn't line up perfectly with the tapered edges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraedenB Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 Hey Josh. We are planning on modifying the bottle guides a bit using a rigid foam pad we cut to fit the bottle exactly. Probably will add some time, but will cut down on any mislabeling. I will follow up here with pictures and let you know how it works, once we get it all set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteB Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 The Primara seen above won't work for my labels as they are too wide, they wrap around. Looks a great machine for flat surfaces, might get one for my true square bottle if demand builds. on the base of the square/round bottles I have, there is a deep notch which I presume can be used to line up the bottles correctly. The foam cutout sounds as if it could work but I am working on making a locating pin for the notch. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentondouglas Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Will this work with wide labels that wrap more than half way around this type of bottle?? We use this machine for a label that wraps around one corner. Basically, the machine helps get the label started properly and we then use our fingers to press the label around the corner. It's all about getting perfect initial contact between the label and the glass. Again, getting quick and consistent results from this machine is a skill the user has to develop. But the learning curve is relatively short compared to most things involved in operating a distillery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38° Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 On 11/11/2015 at 11:27 AM, BraedenB said: Hey All, We are using a "sqround" bottle, which is to say a square bottle with tapered edges and rounded faces. Unfortunately that means our bottle does not work with hand operated, square or round labeling machines. Here is the technical specs of the bottle http://www.bruniglass.com/assets/Uploads/pdf/17291D1.pdf We are using the Bruni Contessa and I believe AAC has a similar one in the Milan. I have heard that the 105 Race RLTC SP might work but didn't have the best reviews. We are fine hand labeling until we can afford an automated line, but if anyone has any suggestions I would love to hear them. Cheers. Did you happen to find a good solution for this bottle? We have the same issue in addition to a wrap around two part front label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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