StevenD

hi, im looking to buy a fruit masher with a variable setting that wont damage the stone--please call Steven at (646)339-3719 thank you

Jesse built me a 5gallon practice still that i received from him last week. It is a beauty and i am very pleased with his work. I will try to post a pic of it this week.

Hey Folks,

We just wanted to share a picture of the 40 gallon steam jacketed pot still with agitator. It comes up to temp in about 45 minutes. Our customer is eager to ready their facility for the arrival of this beauty. The other is one that is ready to be finished in about 4 Days for the next customer. We have built this one thinking ot keep it, But as usual, we will build another if someone would like a 150 gallon pot still with immersion heaters. It can run off single phase or 3 phase. we havent finished this one off so if you'd like a Gin basket or Dephlegmator, we can still add one. The 40 Gallon can run with steam but we are going to test it on hot water circulation too. My engineer is doing some graphs (geek!), you number people will like this...all good. Anyone interested in the 150 Gallon should contact me directly and we can talk about options. No matter what options you want, it can be ready to ship in about a week.

Sorry for this long post but this is pretty much NJ in a nutshell:

LICENSES – MANUFACTURING

WHAT ARE MANUFACTURING LICENSES?

Alcoholic beverage licenses issued to manufacturers – commonly known in the alcoholic beverage industry as “suppliers” – are “Class A” licenses and are set forth in N.J.S.A. 33:1-10. They include Plenary Brewery (identified in the second set of digits in the license number as a “10”), Limited Brewery (“11”), Plenary Winery (“21”), Farm Winery (“22”), Plenary Distillery (“16”) (none are presently issued), Limited Distillery

(“17”) (none are presently issued), Supplementary Limited Distillery (“18”) (none are presently issued), Rectifier and Blender (“15”) and Bonded Warehouse Bottling (“29”) (none are presently issued) licenses. Any supplier engaging in the actual manufacture or bottling of alcoholic beverage in New Jersey must have one of these licenses. They are issued by the Director of the Division of A.B.C. (See “Brew Pubs.”)

Plenary distillery license. 3a. The holder of this license shall be

25 entitled, subject to rules and regulations, to manufacture any distilled

26 alcoholic beverages and rectify, blend, treat and mix, and to sell and

27 distribute his products to wholesalers and retailers licensed in

28 accordance with this chapter, and to sell and distribute without this

29 State to any persons pursuant to the laws of the places of such sale

30 and distribution, and to maintain a warehouse. The fee for this license

31 shall be $12,500.

Limited distillery license. 3b. The holder of this license shall be

33 entitled, subject to rules and regulations, to manufacture and bottle

34 any alcoholic beverages distilled from fruit juices and rectify, blend,

35 treat, mix, compound with wine and add necessary sweetening and

36 flavor to make cordial or liqueur, and to sell and distribute to

37 wholesalers and retailers licensed in accordance with this chapter, and

38 to sell and distribute without this State to any persons pursuant to the

39 laws of the places of such sale and distribution and to warehouse these

40 products. The fee for this license shall be $3,750.

Supplementary limited distillery license. 3c. The holder of this

42 license shall be entitled, subject to rules and regulations, to bottle and

43 rebottle, in a quantity to be expressed in said license, dependent upon

44 the following fees, alcoholic beverages distilled from fruit juices by

45 such holder pursuant to a prior plenary or limited distillery license, and

46 to sell and distribute his products to wholesalers and retailers licensed

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1 in accordance with this chapter, and to sell and distribute without this

2 State to any persons pursuant to the laws of the places of such sale

3 and distribution, and to maintain a warehouse. The fee for this license

4 shall be graduated as follows: to so bottle and rebottle not more than

5 5,000 wine gallons per annum, $313; to so bottle and rebottle not

6 more than 10,000 wine gallons per annum, $625; to so bottle and

7 rebottle without limit as to amount, $1,250.

Note that with a "Plenary" distillery license in NJ, you attain the right to sell directly to wholesalers AND retailers.

Ralph -

Thank you. I am looking at going the farm distillery route as a back up if I can not get a straight micro law passed. I think NJ would pass a farm distillery permit, but would like to not be tied to a farm location but be able to set up in a city. In NY do all of the spirits sold on sight have to be made from grain grown on the farm, or just produced from a still located on the farm? Can you have an off sight retail location? Thanks

Ralph -

Thank you. I am looking at going the farm distillery route as a back up if I can not get a straight micro law passed. I think NJ would pass a farm distillery permit, but would like to not be tied to a farm location but be able to set up in a city. In NY do all of the spirits sold on sight have to be made from grain grown on the farm, or just produced from a still located on the farm? Can you have an off sight retail location? Thanks

In NY, to apply for and adhere to the Distillers Farm Class D License, they use the term "primarily" from New York grown products. I spoke to a lawyer at the SLA who told me that "primarily" means 75%, but 75% is not written anywhere in that law, so I would think that you should be able to get away with 51% but I dont know that for sure. Also, its important to note that you dont have to grow these state grown products on your own farm. You could buy them from another farmer (in state only) and still be considered eligible for the DD license. These products can be sampled and sold on site.

In regards to location of a DSP, could a DSP be located, say, in the ground floor of a building where there were apartments on upper floors of the same building? This might be a stupid question but there seem to be plenty of exceptions to the various laws. It seems obvious that the apartments are "dwelling units" and i suppose if they are in the same building it appears that they are "connected" to the DSP but i just want to be sure. Im also curious as to whether it only applies to the dwelling house of the DSP propietor, himself, or anyone who might be living in the building. Thank you in advance.

Alright ladies and gents, I know I'm possibly resurrecting a sleeping giant with this one. However, after talking to Ralph for a while and dealing with this for several months now, I would like to see if I can come to a conclusion on my situation in the near future. Bottom line, if you have a residence next to and/or on the same piece of property as your dsp, could you please e-mail me @ paul@mbrdistillery.com and (if you're willing), I would like to call you and discuss things for a brief few minutes. I've been getting passed around by the feds and both myself and Ralph believe that my individual situation is perfectly legit for having a dwelling house next to (but not in connection with) the dsp/bonded buildings. If I can provide some references of some other examples to the feds when I submit my proposal to them, it may save me much money, time and heartache. For anyone willing to share their experiences on this matter it will be greatly appreciated and I'll put a gold star next to your name on my rolodex, plus you'll be saving me a whole bunch of money each month as some day I would like to pay myself something.

That is fantastic information, thank you very much. I am only in my business planning stage at the moment but when the time comes I would love to be involved with fighting for this type of legislation. I hope to visit your distillery in the next month or so, my brother moved up to Newburgh NY and I understand it is pretty close. Thanks again

Hi, i've been scouring the forum as well as the NYS liquor Authority website concerning the various classes of distiller's licenses and what they make an individual entitled to. Thank you Ralph at Tuthiltown, your posts have been very helpful and informative but unfortunately I'm still a bit confused. Am I correct that a class A-1 and Farm (class D) licenses give you the right to manufacture AND wholesale liquors to wholesalers and retailers? I also understand that a class D license is only given under the stipulation that you use "primarily" NYS farm and food products in your production but what about products that are not grown in NYS such as certain Gin botanicals? ...for that matter im not certain barley and rye are grown in abundance in NY?? What constitutes "primarily"? In a certain piece of legislation i just read on the NYS Senate website the term "entirely made from NYS Ag Products" was used leading to further confusion. Thank you very much.